Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June 19th)
Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Wed, 19 June 2013 12:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June 19th)
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On 06/19/2013 01:53 PM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > > Hi, > > I put together some text regarding the de-muxing for BUNDLE. > > Note that there is yet no text on HOW the de-muxing is performed. The > text only cover the SCOPE of what will be specified in the BUNDLE > spec. I want us to agree on that first :) > I think you should be careful about this. You risk duplicating material from other specs. > Regards, > > Christer > > --------------------------------------------------- > > 9. Transport Protocol De-Multiplexing > > 9.1. General > > Endpoints can assign "m=" lines representing different transport > > protocols [RFC4566], identified using the "m=" line proto value > > [RFC4566]. > > As each "m=" line in a BUNDLE group share the BUNDLE address, an > > endpoint MUST be able to de-multiplex data received on the BUNDLE > > address, meaning it MUST be able to associate the received with one > > of the transport protocols assigned to the BUNDLE group. Endpoints > > MUST NOT assign a transport protocols to a BUNDLE group, unless it is > > able to separate received data from data associated with other > > transport protocols assigned to the BUNDLE group. > > In addition, if an endpoint assigns multiple "m=" lines representing > > the same transport protocol to a BUNDLE group, the endpoint MUST be > > able to, in addition to associating received data to its transport > > protocol, also associate the received data with a specific "m=" line > > representing that transport protocol. > > This specification defines how to de-multiplex received media > > associated with the following transport protocols: > > o "RTP/AVP" [RFC4566]; > > o "RTP/AVPF" [RFC4585]; > > o "RTP/SAVP" [RFC3711]; > > o "RTP/SAVPF" [RFC5124];and > > o "SCTP/DTLS" [ref-to-be added]. > This is somewhat incomprehensible to me; the most logical description I can make is that it means that you can separate packets into one heap containing all the RTP variants and another heap containing SCTP/DTLS - but that is not obvious. Suggest instead: This specification defines how to de-multiplex protocols carried over RTP (which include RTP/AVP [], RTP/AVPF [], RTP/SAVP[] and RTP/SAVPF [] from protocols carried over DTLS (which include SCTP/DTLS []). And that makes the specification of the demultiplexing very simple: "See RFC 5764 section 5.1.2" > This specification also specifies how RTP packats are separated from > > RTCP packets. > Again, the specification of how to do this separation is very simple: "See RFC 5761 section 4" > > If an endpoint assigns multiple "m=" lines representing RTP/RTCP > > media to a BUNDLE group, it is outside the scope of this > > specification how the endpoint associates received RTP/RTCP packets > > with a specific RTP/RTCP "m=" line (endpoints might use payload type > > values, or SSRC values, for the association). > > If endpoints want to assign "m=" lines representing other transport > > protocols to a BUNDLE group, it MUST be documented how the de- > > multiplexing is performed. There might also be a need for signalling > > extensions in order for endpoints to exchange data needed for the de- > > multiplexing. > I agree with the sense of these paragraphs. > > > _______________________________________________ > mmusic mailing list > mmusic@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic
- [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June 19t… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Stach, Thomas
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June… Bernard Aboba