Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June 19th)

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Thu, 20 June 2013 04:53 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE TEXT: De-mux procedures (June 19th)
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Hi,

>> Using 96 for both Opus and VP8 is flat out illegal according to the RTP specs.
>
> Agree.

So, we DO agree that the usage of the *same* PT value (even if in different m= lines) for different codecs, or different codec configurations, is not allowed.

Is there some specific section in some specific RFC that can be referenced to show that?

>> The corner case where we're discussing whether one can use the same payload type is if you have two M-lines that both specify VP8, with 
>> the same codec parameters - whether they can both use 96, given that it's the same codec.
>
> Surely yes, but you lose the ability to distinguish the m= line based on the PT if you use the same PT (mapped to the exact same codec and set of codec parameters) in
> several m= lines. Some applications care about distinguishing m= lines based on PT values, and so need distinct PT values for every m= line; others don't care, and can 
> use the same PT to represent the same codec across multiple m= lines.

Exactly. So, I think it's a good idea to have some text about that in BUNDLE.

Regards,

Christer