Re: [MMUSIC] ICE updated offer

Hi Thomas,

I understand your original statement now. Hope you understand that the second offer is required to all signaling entity which is controlling the separate media entity irrespective the protocol (SIP/WebRTC/...) used. 

Thanks
Partha

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stach, Thomas [mailto:thomas.stach@unify.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:48 AM
> To: Parthasarathi R; 'Emil Ivov'; 'Iñaki Baz Castillo'
> Cc: mmusic@ietf.org; 'Roman Shpount'; 'Christer Holmberg'
> Subject: RE: [MMUSIC] ICE updated offer
> 
> >
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > I'm not seeing that the second offer is relevant only to SIP.
> [TS] That is not what I said.
> For background on my original statement you may want to refer to
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rosenberg-mmusic-ice-nonsip-
> 01#section-5.4.2
> 
> > Even in case
> > WebRTC entity with (proprietary) signaling & media in the separate
> device,
> > WebRTC signaling entity will not aware of the actual media IP, port &
> > transport.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Partha
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mmusic [mailto:mmusic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stach,
> > > Thomas
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 7:19 PM
> > > To: Emil Ivov; Iñaki Baz Castillo
> > > Cc: mmusic@ietf.org; Roman Shpount; Christer Holmberg
> > > Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] ICE updated offer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I really don't think browsers have anything to do with this. It is
> > > purely a matter of signalling. Nothing needs to be changed for
> webrtc
> > > one way or another.
> > > [TS] I agree. ICE updated offer was introduced to accommodate
> certain
> > > SIP middleboxes. Its relevance outside of SIP is at least
> debatable.
> > >
> > > --sent from my mobile
> > > On 15 Oct 2014 12:18 PM, "Iñaki Baz Castillo" <ibc@aliax.net>
> wrote:
> > > 2014-10-15 8:55 GMT+02:00 Christer Holmberg
> > > <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>:
> > > > What I suggest has very little impact on ICE as defined today. It
> > > only adds
> > > > some kind of indicator (ice-options attribute value?) whether the
> > > second
> > > > offer is needed or not. Simple :)
> > >
> > > And in case the SDP says that the "second offer" is required, then
> > > what? I mean, should the browser do samething (I mean natively)? or
> is
> > > it just up to the JS application?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Iñaki Baz Castillo
> > > <ibc@aliax.net>
> > >
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