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Re: [MMUSIC] [Ice] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip-14: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

"Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com> Wed, 09 May 2018 15:01 UTC

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From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
CC: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>, "mmusic-chairs@ietf.org" <mmusic-chairs@ietf.org>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, mmusic WG <mmusic@ietf.org>, "ice@ietf.org" <ice@ietf.org>, RTCWeb IETF <rtcweb@ietf.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] [Ice] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip-14: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On May 4, 2018, at 1:07 AM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>> wrote:

Regarding core ICE, I still think we shall replace the RFC5245 reference
with a reference to draft-5245bis, for the following technical reasons:

I would view this as a huge changes that would need some pretty significant testing and discussion in the WG. Right now, as far as I can tell the browser have implemented ice not bis.  I would like WebRTC 1.0 to be what people have implemented - the reason it is ice not bis is it is unclear if bis performs as wells as ice.

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