Re: [MMUSIC] draft-dtls-sdp: Allow offerer to establish DTLS association before it has received the SDP answer?

Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> Thu, 08 June 2017 20:28 UTC

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Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 16:28:16 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] draft-dtls-sdp: Allow offerer to establish DTLS association before it has received the SDP answer?
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On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Paul Kyzivat <paul.kyzivat@comcast.net>
wrote:

> On 6/8/17 9:25 AM, Cullen Jennings wrote:
>
>>
>> The above discussion only pertains to DTLS used for *media*. Some
> additional consideration is needed regarding non-media usage. (Notably data
> channels.)
>

Do you have any suggestions regarding the non "media" usage, i.e. data?

I think offering end point SHOULD not send any data before the answer is
received, but I am not sure if this means actual data or negotiation
messages (INIT-ACK) as well.  Putting this another way, should answering
end point proceed with SCTP handshake before the answer is received? If
INIT-ACK is not sent, SCTP setup is delayed and no data is sent. This is
similar to what I have proposed with DTLS where it did not work because of
data requirements, but I got to ask if this is acceptable for data.

Regards,
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Roman Shpount