Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Lock and notification of lock
Huub van Helvoort <hhelvoort@chello.nl> Mon, 04 May 2009 07:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Lock and notification of lock
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Hello Nurit, You wrote: > To continue with the othe rquestion: > >> See also my e-mail: >> MPLS-TP OAM requirements - AIS/LockNotif - Can MIPs send "usolicited" >> OAM messages ? > > The answer was no. > >> -question: >> More generally to the comment above, who should notify and who should >> notify whom? >> I would tend to say: >> the receiving node of a locked direction, informs downstream receiving >> nodes of nested LSPs. > > To be more exact, the sink side of a locked LSP, PW, Section, has to > inform its clients. You say " To be more exact, the sink side of a locked LSP, PW, Section, has to inform its clients.", [hvh] it should inform its client transport entities in the server/client relation BUT the client is not necessarily an endpoint but may be an intermediate point, and it needs to notify its endpoints, that means that a MIP generates an OAM message. [hvh this requires that a MIP has the capability to send OAM messages based on management command or based on an indication of a MEP in a different layer. This also requires that at every MEP location there are also MIPs for every client entity serviced by that MEP. Long ago I discussed this point with Italo and he indicated to me that it is not a generation of a message by a MIP BUT it is a variation of an adaptation function at the client intermediate point. Although we are talking here about a way to implement it, this is a conceptual issue that we need to agree on. [hvh] I agree with Italo. Also, I think we should generalize the discussion instead of talking every time about LSP, PW, section, etc. we should really talk about client/server layers to cover cases of LSP hierarchies, etc. [hvh] then I use server/client path/trail the next time, OK? Regards, Huub. >> This is a Fowrward Indication and if we do >> so then receiving points MUST indeed be informed of a Lock (c.f. >> discussion at the beginning of the e-mail). >> Should source points (locking points) do some reverse indication and >> notify the source points of the LSPs that are nested in the locked > LSP? >> (but this maybe falls in the RDI functionality). > > Isn't this notification already caused by the locking at the > far end? > Or is the locking only applied in one direction of a bi-directional > path? If yes, then the notification is not required. > > Cheers, Huub. > -- ================================================================ Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else...
- [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Lock an… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Annamaria Fulignoli
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Annamaria Fulignoli
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam)