Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Lock and notification of lock
Huub van Helvoort <hhelvoort@chello.nl> Mon, 04 May 2009 12:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Lock and notification of lock
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Hi Martin, You replied: > please see inline, > > regards, > -m > > Huub van Helvoort a écrit : >> Bonsoir Martin, >> >> You wrote: >> >>> here are my thoughts on this: >>> >>> As far as I understand, strictly speaking the Lock function >>> does not make sense on a unidir LSP. Indeed locking is performed >>> at the source point and so there is no need to send any message >>> to perform that Lock. (the potentially needed message is to inform >>> the end-point(s) of the status but that is lock notification. >>> I'll come back to this). >> >> What should happen if the CP and MP are separated, i.e the >> ingress point and egress poinr belong to different SP domains? > > [mvx] please se my other e-mail. [hvh] OK, I will. >>> Therefore Lock is only needed on a bidir entity and what is exactly >>> needed is the capability to request the other end point to admin lock >>> its direction. >> >> What do you mean by "its direction", the direction from "the >> other end point" back to the "source point"? > > [mvx] in case of bidir, both nodes are sources points. > What I mean is that a node (A) should have the means to ask its > associated end point (Z) to Lock the direction of the LSP that > goes from Z to A. > >> >>> Coming back to the notification, I believe the following requirement >>> is needed: >>> The MPLS-TP OAM toolset MUST provide a functionality to enable an >>> End Point of a PW, LSP or Section to inform the End Point(s) of that >>> LSP, PW, or Section that the PW, LSP or Section has been >>> administratively shutdown at this End Point. >>> But it is conditionally needed. This function is *only* needed if >>> locking is achieved via Lock, otherwise if it is achieved via NMS >>> commands >> >> This requires that both end points can be reached via the MP. > > [mvx] indeed but that does not contradict the above. OK, I was confused by the added *conditionally* >>> we (I hope) can safely assume that: >>> for undir LSP there will be commands at both ends, one saying lock, >>> the other saying you are notified of other end locking. >>> for bidir LSP there will be commands at both ends, both saying lock >>> and you are notified of other end locking. >>> >>> The MUST is needed because the egress must be aware of the Lock because >>> we expect him to then inform client MEPs that are "downstream". (see >>> question at the end of this e-mail). >>> >>> The small problem I have is that this function is a notification >>> one but really tightly linked to the Lock. In other words, I do >>> not know where this reqs better fits (especially wrt to the conditional >>> issue): in Lock or in Lock Notification? >>> Opinions are welcomed. Cheers, Huub. -- ================================================================ Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else...
- [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Lock an… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Annamaria Fulignoli
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Annamaria Fulignoli
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam)
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Malcolm Betts
- Re: [Mpls-interop] MPLS-TP OAM requirements - Loc… Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam)