Re: [mpls] Review for WG Adoption of draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-02.txt
Thomas Nadeau <tnadeau@juniper.net> Wed, 23 May 2012 21:17 UTC
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From: Thomas Nadeau <tnadeau@juniper.net>
To: Joan Cucchiara <jcucchiara@mindspring.com>, "aldrin.ietf@gmail.com" <aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>, "venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com" <venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com>, Kannan KV Sampath <Kannan.Sampath@aricent.com>, Sami Boutros <sboutros@cisco.com>, "ppan@infinera.com" <ppan@infinera.com>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 17:16:37 -0400
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Review for WG Adoption of draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-02.txt
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Hi Joan! Thanks for the review. Comments inline start with TOM: On 5/23/12 11:30 AM, "Joan Cucchiara" <jcucchiara@mindspring.com> wrote: > >Hello Authors, > >Thank you for proposing this solution. >Please see my notes below. > >Thank you, > -Joan > >1) Coherency of document: >A) Is document useful and likely to be used/useful in operational >networks? > >This document contains a MIB Module with 2 tables. The tables allow >creation of >TP IDs of MPLS LSPs and Pseudowires. Also a pointer to rows in >other MIBs Modules., i.e. to an MPLS Tunnel in the MPLS-TE-STD-MIB >(RFC3012) >or >pseudowire in the PWE-STD-MIB (RFC5601). Since many vendors and >operators >support the MPLS-TE-STD-MIB and PW-STD-MIB, then one could agree with the >authors that the architecture of this MIB is a viable approach. > >In other words, the authors are leveraging off of existing MIB >implementations. >They are doing this in a way which adheres to the rules of SMIv2 and I do >think that the MIB is likely to be used/useful in operational networks. > > >B) Is document technically sound? > >From a MIB perspective, no: > >I) Many objects are of type "DisplayString" which is used >in SMIv1 but not in SMIv2. > >As the MIB Common TC doc specifies: > >https://svn.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-common-tcs > > > "Note 2. DisplayString does not support internationalized text. > It MUST NOT be used for objects that are required to > hold internationalized text (which is always the case > if the object is intended for use by humans [RFC2277]). > Designers SHOULD consider using SnmpAdminString, > Utf8String, or LongUtf8String for such objects." > >II) The term "Trap" is used in both the document and the MIB. >This needs to be replaced by the term "Notification". Traps a mechanism >in SNMPv1. Please see RFC3584. TOM: Ooops! We will fix this. >2) Is document ready for WG adoption? > >I would ask that changes to remove DisplayString and use a TC which >supports internationalization be done, and the term Trap removed >prior to WG adoption for reasons stated above. > >This request should only take a few minutes of editing, but will bring >the >document upto SMIv2. TOM: Agree. There is no big issue fixing this. We will need to re-spin the draft in a WG-approved format anyways, so we can fix this during those edits. > >Additionally, a few comments (mostly as fyi): > >I) this MIB contains configuration (read-create) objects. > >II) the document proposes to root the MIB under mplsStdMIB which was >the convention for the set of MPLS MIBs in 2004 but guidelines have >changed since then. > >III) The use of the accessible-for-notify and imports of >IFMIB tables do not seem necessary in the MIB's current state. >As the MIB is updated, this should be removed or clarified. TOM: Cool. --Tom > >
- [mpls] Review for WG Adoption of draft-vkst-mpls-… Joan Cucchiara
- Re: [mpls] Review for WG Adoption of draft-vkst-m… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [mpls] Review for WG Adoption of draft-vkst-m… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] Review for WG Adoption of draft-vkst-m… Venkatesan Mahalingam
- Re: [mpls] Review for WG Adoption of draft-vkst-m… Thomas Nadeau