Re: [mpls] draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp was RE: gre-in-udp draft (was: RE: [tsvwg] Milestones changed for tsvwg WG)

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Thu, 09 January 2014 07:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp was RE: gre-in-udp draft (was: RE: [tsvwg] Milestones changed for tsvwg WG)
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> Because they specify zero UDP checksums,
> I oppose publication of draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp in its current form
> I oppose tsvwg adoption of draft-yong-tsvwg-gre-in-udp-encap in its current form.
> I oppose the IETF lisp documents.

lloyd,

i think i understand your position.  but i disagree with preventing wg
adoption of draft-yong-tsvwg-gre-in-udp-encap, mainly because i strongly
see wg adoption as how we get to discuss and work on a document, not as
approval of the document.  as david said, i think we need to discuss it
so we can decide if it should be fixed.  to do so, we have to adopt it.

randy