Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpls-lsp-ping-tlvs-and-sub-tlvs-registry-02
"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Wed, 15 May 2013 21:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpls-lsp-ping-tlvs-and-sub-tlvs-registry-02
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I agree with George from a definition standpoint, I don't find the "TLVs and sub-TLVs" table at http://www.iana.org/assignments/mpls-lsp-ping-parameters/mpls-lsp-ping-parameters.xmldifficult to follow at all. However, it would be interesting to hear from implementers if they've had any difficulty implementing the TLVs and sub-TLVs. But at this point, with existing implementations, I think we need a REALLY GOOD reason to change other than some people find the table confusing, which seems to be the main justification in the draft. Also, if the draft is adopted, it would be useful for it to have a link to the IANA page in the references. Cheers, Andy On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:26 AM, George Swallow (swallow) < swallow@cisco.com> wrote: > With hat off. > > No/do not support. > > I believe that making a single sub-TLV space is going to lead to a lot > of confusion in the future as to which sub-TLVs are used with which TLVs. > That is one will have to search through bunch of documents instead of > seeing it clearly laid out in the registry. > > Keeping the spaces separate for RSVP has worked well. I really don't > get what is preventing that here. > > George > > From: Ross Callon <rcallon@juniper.net> > Date: Sunday, May 5, 2013 10:53 PM > To: "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, " > draft-pac-mpls-lsp-ping-tlvs-and-sub-tlvs-registry@tools.ietf.org" < > draft-pac-mpls-lsp-ping-tlvs-and-sub-tlvs-registry@tools.ietf.org> > Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" <mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org> > > Subject: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for > draft-pac-mpls-lsp-ping-tlvs-and-sub-tlvs-registry-02 > > Working group, > > this is to start a "two week" poll on adopting > draft-pac-mpls-lsp-ping-tlvs-and-sub-tlvs-registry-02 > as an MPLS working group document. > > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > group mailing list (*mpls@ietf.org* <mpls@ietf.org>) > > This poll will end May 20th, 2013. > > Ross > (as mpls wg co-chair) > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > >
- [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpls-ls… Ross Callon
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Pontus Sköldström
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Ning So
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Yaacov Weingarten
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Jie Dong
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… George Swallow (swallow)
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption fordraft-pac-mpls… t.petch
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption fordraft-pac-mpls… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoptionfordraft-pac-mpls-… t.petch
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption fordraft-pac-mpls… Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoptionfordraft-pac-mpls-… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-pac-mpl… Ross Callon