Re: [mpls] Poll for Adoption draft-andersson-mpls-moving-iana-registries-00

Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Wed, 14 August 2013 06:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll for Adoption draft-andersson-mpls-moving-iana-registries-00
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Carlos,

While I tend to agree that someone (hint) should write-up a document
fixing the G-ACh registries, that is not the purpose of the current
documents. It is looking to clean up the LSP Ping registries.

We have tried the approach "fixing everything" and failed to get our
heads around it, decided to take a stepwise approach. If we now stumble
on the first step (or rather second, since cleaning up the LSP registy
structure was the first) I'm afraid that nothing will be done.

Since you say (below) "solves a small part" I hope we can do this and
go ahead and do the rest as soon as we have the cycles.

/Loa

On 2013-08-14 04:53, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) wrote:
> I believe that fixing and organizing misplaced number registrations is
> useful and worthwhile as it prevents future confusion, and typically
> welcome clean-ups.
>
> However, I do not support adoption
> of draft-andersson-mpls-moving-iana-registries-00 in its current form.
>
> The document solves a small part of the potential source of confusion,
> and, to me, it should fix all potential inconsistencies or leave things
> as-is.
>
> Specifically:
>
>   * draft-andersson-mpls-moving-iana-registries proposes only to move
>     four namespaces currently in [1] from [RFC6374] into a new heading
>     (registry).
>
>
> However, there's still the following potential inconsistencies, with all
> these protocol elements from the G-ACH in different places:
>
>   * The G-ACH Channel Types namespace, although now it's a superset of
>     the original PW-ACH, is still titled "Pseudowire Associated Channel
>     Types" and is hosted in the pwe3-parameters registry. [2]
>   * Other G-ACH namespaces and assignments from [RFC6427]
>     and [RFC6378] reside in their own mpls-oam-parameters page [3]
>   * G-ACh Advertisement Protocol namespaces are in the pwe3-parameters
>     registry [4] [5] [6], although these are not PWE3.
>   * CC/CV MEP-ID TLV namespace with pwe3-parameters [7]
>
>
> I would suggest that either things are left as they are, or all these
> G-ACH/PW-ACH namespaces are moved under a main "Generic Associated
> Channel (G-ACH)" registry *if* there's consensus for the clean-up.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- Carlos.
>
> [1]
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/mpls-lsp-ping-parameters/mpls-lsp-ping-parameters.xml#measurement-timestamp
> [2]
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/pwe3-parameters/pwe3-parameters.xhtml#pwe3-parameters-11
> [3]
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/mpls-oam-parameters/mpls-oam-parameters.xhtml
> [4]
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/pwe3-parameters/pwe3-parameters.xhtml#gach-application
> [5]
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/pwe3-parameters/pwe3-parameters.xhtml#gach-tlv
> [6]
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/pwe3-parameters/pwe3-parameters.xhtml#gach-ethernet
> [7]
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/pwe3-parameters/pwe3-parameters.xhtml#cc-cv-mep-id
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Ross Callon <rcallon@juniper.net
> <mailto:rcallon@juniper.net>> wrote:
>
>> This is to start a "two week" poll on adopting
>> draft-andersson-mpls-moving-iana-registries-00
>> as an MPLS working group document.
>> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
>> group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org <mailto:mpls@ietf.org>).
>> This poll will end August 28, 2013.
>> Thanks, Ross
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Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
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