Re: [mpowr] Re: Getting Bad Ideas to Fail Early

Good day,

This feels really ICAR-ish.  I hate to just move it, though,
for fear of losing participants.  Maybe the thread'll end now,
though.

> On Monday, 09 February, 2004 23:12 -0800 Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote:
> > that would be no change ... the IESG document evaluation
> > process is currently highly interrupt driven - the interrupt
> > is the other ADs putting documents on the agenda.....

Let's just say that I don't envy them their task.

On Tuesday 10 February 2004 18.13, John C Klensin wrote:
> Different answer, complementary to Harald's.  If the AD 
> responsible for a particular WG concludes that the WG is 
> promoting "bad" ideas and can't get unstuck from them, has a 
> very wide range of mechanisms available for focusing the WG's 
> attention.

And rightly so.

> We can discuss how these should be exercised, what 
> degree of consultation should be required and with whom, etc., 
> but the basic mechanisms remain.  They include:
> 
> 	* Additional, forceful, explanations of why the idea is
> 	bad and isn't going anywhere. ("reading of the riot act"
> 	is probably a member of this category)
> 	
> 	* Replacing WG Chairs
> 	
> 	* Rechartering the WG to eliminate the task(s) that the
> 	WG doesn't want to get right.
> 	
> 	* Closing the WG entirely.

Yes, I understand and those are all rational ways to deal with
eventual problems.  Perhaps ICAR can provide additional input to
allow these things to happen (when needed) more speedily.

Cheers,

David

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