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Re: [Mtgvenue] Exploration of a "posting" metric - draft-elkins-mtgvenue-participation-metrics

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 21 July 2016 07:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] Exploration of a "posting" metric - draft-elkins-mtgvenue-participation-metrics
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On 21/07/2016 06:08, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
> 
>> On Jul 20, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote:
>>
>> "Contribution" needs to be measured meaningfully, as well as objectively, even if the measurement is coarse and doesn't count everyone.
>>
>> This is why I've suggested reaching no deeper than the Acknowledgements and Contributors sections of I-D's and RFCs (as well as author lists, of course.)  If a name shows up there, the person made it through a basic filter for having been seen to actually contribute.
> 
> I'm thinking through the mechanisms by which one might extract the acknowledgements, contributors, and authors sections of an internet draft or RFC, and extract from it human names. If you have some good heuristics, I'd be interested. I don't think "hire an intern" is a long term solution.

It isn't. But "talk to Henrik" might point to a solution. He has a bunch of code
that extracts stuff from drafts and RFCs using a bunch of heuristics. I think
he could tell us pretty quickly what is realistic and what is science fiction.

   Brian

P.S. Re postings on mailing lists: I think that's binary. Either we count
all postings, or none. The fact that someone's posting is trivial is hard
to decide (even for humans, and definitely for algorithms). The only exception
might be to discard all messages that top-post the string "+1". (Personally
I'd also discard all messages that only make sense when viewed as HTML, but
that's me being old-fashioned.)

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