Re: [Mtgvenue] visa situation... worsens?

Vinayak Hegde <vinayakh@gmail.com> Fri, 24 March 2017 19:24 UTC

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From: Vinayak Hegde <vinayakh@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 00:54:10 +0530
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] visa situation... worsens?
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On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
> I get the impression that the main proponents of this for a long time have
> been people who wanted an excuse to come to the U.S., and now that this has
> become problematic, there's no longer any reason for that policy.   However,
> people in the U.S. who have green cards but are not citizens are still at
> risk with the new policies, so for them flying to IETF out of the U.S. is
> now going to be potentially really risky.

The green card rentry issue no longer holds. It was always intended as
a bargaining chip AFAIK.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-greencard-idUSKBN15G5HB

-- Vinayak