Re: [multimob] Fast Handover Solutions

["Rajeev Koodli (rkoodli)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Behcet,

On 11/26/12 1:46 PM, "Behcet Sarikaya" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>> Hi Behcet,
>>
>> these requirements are for a fast handover solution, i.e., a protocol
>>that
>> operates a *handover* in a *fast* manner.
>>
>> I agree that draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover does not meet the
>> requirements, but had written earlier on the list that the name of this
>> draft is misleading in two ways: (i) draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover
>>is
>> not a fast handover solution, and (ii) the name "fast handover" is tied
>>to
>> RFC5568/RFC5949-like schemes for good reasons.
>>
>
>The draft title contains ... handover optimization ... and it reflects
>its content.
>We asked for this WG draft name because of the charter item to which
>it corresponds.

Sorry, which charter item has "fast-handover"?
Could you clarify?

Thanks.

-Rajeev

 

>
>I think this clarifies your confusion.
>
>Regards,
>
>Behcet
>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>> On 20.11.2012 00:09, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>
>>> It seems that these requirements are for
>>>
>>> draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast
>>>
>>> and not for
>>> draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Behcet
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt
>>> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> after the - somewhat uninformed discussion at IETF85 - chairs asked
>>>>me to
>>>> restate requirements of a "fast handover solution" for Multicast
>>>> Mobility.
>>>>
>>>> Here they are:
>>>>
>>>>   (i) Handover should be fast (this is only true for a direct pMAG/AR
>>>>to
>>>> nMAG/AR solution such as
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multic
>>>>ast).
>>>>
>>>>   (ii) Multicast handover should be fully synchronized with unicast
>>>> handover
>>>> (otherwise unicast and multicast states diverge as is a well-known
>>>>issue
>>>> for
>>>> the RAMS-approach, i.e.,
>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover).
>>>>
>>>>   (iii) Multicast handover solutions should tightly integrate with
>>>> unicast
>>>> handover (only
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multic
>>>>ast
>>>> integrates with PFMIPv6 and FMIPv6).
>>>>
>>>>   (iv) Handover management should reuse standard mobility and
>>>>multicast
>>>> protocol operations for easy implementation and deployment
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>(http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multi
>>>>cast
>>>> introduced the use of standard IGMP/MLD records for context
>>>>description
>>>> in
>>>> transfer, which has been copied several times).
>>>>
>>>>   (v) Multicast handover management should integrate ASM and SSM, as
>>>>well
>>>> as
>>>> IPv4 (IGMP) and IPv6 (MLD), which is only provided by
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multic
>>>>ast.
>>>>
>>>> Based on these facts, chairs and AD proclaimed to re-decide on future
>>>> paths
>>>> for Multimob fast handover solutions.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Thomas
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt
>>>> ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences                   Berliner
>>>>Tor 7
>>>> °
>>>> ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group    20099 Hamburg,
>>>>Germany
>>>> °
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>> --
>>
>> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt
>> ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences                   Berliner Tor
>>7 °
>> ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group    20099 Hamburg,
>>Germany °
>> ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet                   Fon:
>>[phone] °
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