RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-wakikawa-nemo-v4tunnel a MIP6/NEMO WGs document
Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi> Fri, 01 April 2005 17:26 UTC
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From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-wakikawa-nemo-v4tunnel a MIP6/NEMO WGs document
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On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > Even better would be that this "box in the DMZ" terminates V4, and sends > packets to the HA in IPv6. Say, doing some NAT-PT instead of tunneling, > classical alternates. Please, don't even consider translation. You may be interested of the following: "Reasons to Move NAT-PT to Experimental" draft-ietf-v6ops-natpt-to-exprmntl-00 AFAIK, that has just recently been forwarded to the IESG for processing. > Seems to me that the line if thought that starts at your "box in the > DMZ" ends up being With Doors. > > With Doors, the "box in the DMZ" is the Doors gateway between IPv4 and > IPv6. Doors does not solve the problem if the strict requirement is avoiding "extra" encapsulation, right? (I may not buy that requirement myself, but we should at least get to consensus whether it's one or not.) Doors is basically Yet Another v6-in-v4 Tunnelbroker (albeit stateless) Solution, AFAICS. If we go down that path, maybe it would be worth using the already specified, implemented and deployed mechanisms, or create one ourselves (there was a Tunnel Configuration BOF at the last IETF.) -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Sri Gundavelli
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Vijay Devarapalli
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Sri Gundavelli
- [nemo] Consensus call on making ID draft-wakikawa… Basavaraj.Patil
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Ryuji Wakikawa
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Sri Gundavelli
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Carl Williams
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Vijay Devarapalli
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Vijay Devarapalli
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Sri Gundavelli
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Pekka Savola
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Henrik Levkowetz
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… James Kempf
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Keiichi SHIMA
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Alexandru Petrescu
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Vijay Devarapalli
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Pekka Savola
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pekka Savola
- [nemo] RE: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Basavaraj.Patil
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [nemo] RE: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Sri Gundavelli
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pekka Savola
- [nemo] RE: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Sri Gundavelli
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Sri Gundavelli
- [nemo] RE: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Alpesh
- [nemo] RE: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Alpesh
- [nemo] RE: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Kent Leung
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Ryuji Wakikawa
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Henrik Levkowetz
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Ryuji Wakikawa
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Ryuji Wakikawa
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Ryuji Wakikawa
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Ryuji Wakikawa
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Pekka Savola
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Ryuji Wakikawa
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pekka Savola
- [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID dra… Ryuji Wakikawa