Re: [netconf] WG adoption poll for draft-wwlh-netconf-list-pagination

Jürgen Schönwälder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Thu, 31 March 2022 19:55 UTC

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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 21:53:20 +0200
From: Jürgen Schönwälder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
To: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
Cc: Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>, "netconf@ietf.org" <netconf@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [netconf] WG adoption poll for draft-wwlh-netconf-list-pagination
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 12:20:23PM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:58 AM Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net> wrote:
> 
> >
> > As author of the "client-server" work, I support blocking all adoptions
> > until it's done, with the hope that others will take an active role in
> > getting the "client-server" work over the finish line.
> >
> > Here is a concrete call for help:
> >
> >    - draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries
> >    <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries> discusses
> >    a need for IANA-maintain modules to be defined a certain way.
> >    - The "ssh" and "tls" client-server drafts both define IANA-maintained
> >    modules, but not exactly this way, and hence need to be updated.  For
> >    instance, there is no discussion as to why "identities" were chosen over
> >    "enumerations", and there is no XSLT script in the Appendix that can be
> >    used to generate the modules.
> >    - I'm happy to work with anyone willing to submit Pull Requests on the
> >    GitHub repos for these drafts.
> >
> It sure seems like the goalposts keep moving further and further away.
> Maybe if we delay another 6 months even more new requirements and MISREFs
> can be added to the heap.
> 

+1

/js

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