Re: [netconf] WG adoption poll for draft-wwlh-netconf-list-pagination

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:58 AM Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net> wrote:

>
> As author of the "client-server" work, I support blocking all adoptions
> until it's done, with the hope that others will take an active role in
> getting the "client-server" work over the finish line.
>
> Here is a concrete call for help:
>
>    - draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries
>    <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries> discusses
>    a need for IANA-maintain modules to be defined a certain way.
>    - The "ssh" and "tls" client-server drafts both define IANA-maintained
>    modules, but not exactly this way, and hence need to be updated.  For
>    instance, there is no discussion as to why "identities" were chosen over
>    "enumerations", and there is no XSLT script in the Appendix that can be
>    used to generate the modules.
>    - I'm happy to work with anyone willing to submit Pull Requests on the
>    GitHub repos for these drafts.
>
>
>
It sure seems like the goalposts keep moving further and further away.
Maybe if we delay another 6 months even more new requirements and MISREFs
can be added to the heap.

Thanks,
> Kent
>

Andy

>
>
> On Mar 31, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 2:33 AM tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> wrote:
>
>> From: netconf <netconf-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Wei Wang <
>> weiwang94@foxmail.com>
>> Sent: 30 March 2022 10:11
>>
>> I oppose adoption.
>>
>> The WG has too many I-D outstanding for too many years, which other WG
>> are awaiting,
>>
>> We should finish some of the existing work first.
>>
>>
> There is a direct correlation between "committed resources" and "RFC
> publication".
> An adoption call now means:
>
>    "This work is useful to me. The WG (not me though)
>      should spend time writing, reviewing and implementing this work."
>
> A WG draft needs contributors and reviewers throughout the entire process.
> Your suggestion of "finishing what is on your plate" used to be built into
> the
> process, because you needed a charter extension to add a work item.
>
> Now it seems we have a more multi-threaded process, where many drafts are
> in
> progress at once. This seems to work for the CORE WG.  There are few (if
> any)
> drafts that the entire WG contributes to, but enough stakeholders for most
> drafts to get
> each one done.
>
>
> Tom Petch
>>
>>
> Andy
>
>
>> Hi,
>>     I support the adoption of this draft.
>>
>> Wei Wang
>> China Telecom
>> ------------------ Original ------------------
>> From: "Mahesh Jethanandani" <mjethanandani@gmail.com>;
>> Date: Tue, Mar 8, 2022 01:31 PM
>> To: "Netconf"<netconf@ietf.org>;
>> Subject: [netconf] WG adoption poll for draft-wwlh-netconf-list-pagination
>>
>> Hi WG,
>>
>> The authors presented the following draft in IETF 112, and there was
>> interest in adopting the draft as a WG item.
>>
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wwlh-netconf-list-pagination-00
>> <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-wang-netconf-adaptive-subscrip>
>>
>> Since this call is coming close to IETF 113, the chairs decided to extend
>> the adoption poll to 4 weeks. This poll will end on April 4, and will
>> decide whether this document should be made a WG document or not. Please
>> reply to this email whether or not you support adoption of this draft by
>> the WG. Indications that the draft has been read will be also be
>> appreciated. The Intended Status of the draft is Standards Track.
>>
>> A separate IPR call will be issued on the draft.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mahesh and Kent (as co-chairs)
>>
>>
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