Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmdsdt-netmod-revised-datastores-00
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Mon, 19 December 2016 13:28 UTC
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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 14:28:44 +0100
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmdsdt-netmod-revised-datastores-00
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On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 02:14:49PM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > On 19 Dec 2016, at 13:48, Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:37:57AM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > >> > >> I am not proposing to ban candidate or something but IMO it needn't be part of the base NETCONF (or whatever protocol) spec. > >> > > > > Lets recall that candidate is a _capability_. Nobody is required to > > implement it. > > Yes, this is what I wrote. My point is that this capability could/should be moved out of the NETCONF spec to a separate document. The latter can then be modified without affecting the former. > I believe it does not matter where a capability is defined. You can even declare the capability dead by writing a document declaring it dead; this does not require to revise the RFC the capability is defined in. Since the candidate datastore has been in NETCONF since day one and it is out there and apparently used, I do not see a strong reason to move the definition. Those who do not like it simply do not implement it. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [Netconf] WG adoption poll draft-nmdsdt-netmod-re… Lou Berger
- Re: [Netconf] WG adoption poll draft-nmdsdt-netmo… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Acee Lindem (acee)
- [Netconf] Charter updates (was: WG adoption poll … Lou Berger
- Re: [Netconf] Charter updates (was: WG adoption p… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] WG adoption poll draft-nmdsdt-netmo… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] WG adoption poll draft-nmdsdt-netmo… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- [Netconf] Which list/WG? (Re: WG adoption poll dr… Lou Berger
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… MehmetErsue
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… MehmetErsue
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Jonathan Hansford
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Jan Lindblad
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-nmd… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] WG adoption poll draft-nmdsdt-netmo… Lou Berger
- Re: [Netconf] WG adoption poll draft-nmdsdt-netmo… Mehmet Ersue