Re: [netlmm] About the Agenda for the meeting - your input is needed

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Jonne,

While you are at this, you should also talk to Dime chairs
about equivalent Diameter work.

Cheers,
	Jouni


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] 
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Soininen Jonne 
> (NSN - FI/Espoo)
> Sent: 3. maaliskuuta 2008 23:26
> To: ext Basavaraj Patil
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [netlmm] About the Agenda for the meeting - your 
> input is needed
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think what Raj proposes makes sense and I will start the discussion 
> with the radext chairmen.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jonne.
> ext Basavaraj Patil wrote:
> > The reason why MIP6 tool on the radius extensions work was 
> because the
> > chairs believed that most of the competence for the work 
> was in the MIP6 WG.
> > Radext chairs were okay with working on it as a joint WG 
> document and ensure
> > that the last call and reviews are done by both WGs.
> >
> > In the case of Netlmm as well, I think it would be best to 
> consult with the
> > Radext chairs their opinion about the work being done as a 
> Netlmm/Radext
> > joint WG I-D. 
> >
> > -Raj 
> >
> >
> > On 3/3/08 12:41 PM, "ext Vijay Devarapalli"
> > <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Frank Xia wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Hi Jonne
> >>>
> >>> I am following the practice in  MEXT in which RADIUS 
> draft  is included
> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/mext/draft-ietf-mip6-radius/.
> >>>
> >>> IMO, it makes sense.
> >>>       
> >> Not necessarily. I don't remember why we decided that the RADIUS
> >> extensions had to be done in the MIP6 WG. Maybe RADEXT didn't
> >> have the bandwidth for this work. Raj, do you remember?
> >>
> >> That shouldn't be the reason why the NETLMM WG should standardize
> >> the RADIUS extensions for PMIPv6.
> >>
> >> Having said, I do think that we should work on the RADIUS
> >> extensions somewhere.
> >>
> >> Vijay
> >>
> >>     
> >>> BR
> >>> Frank
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Soininen Jonne (NSN - FI/Espoo)" <[e-mail]>
> >>> To: "ext Frank Xia" <[e-mail]>
> >>> Cc: <[e-mail]>
> >>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:14 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [netlmm] About the Agenda for the meeting - 
> your input is needed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       
> >>>> Frank,
> >>>>
> >>>> I thought radius extensions would rather be at radext WG 
> than in netlmm.
> >>>> This would then be in line with dime and the diameter 
> work as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jonne.
> >>>> ext Frank Xia wrote:
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Hi Soininen
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think  that "RADIUS Proxy Mobile IPv6" is another 
> topic to consider for
> >>>>> rechartering.
> >>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/netlmm/draft-xia-netlmm-radius-02.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is necessary mechanism when deploying PMIPv6 using 
> RADIUS as AAA
> >>>>> protocol.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In fact, the corresponding document, Diamter Proxy 
> Mobile IPv6, is also
> >>>>> being 
> >>>>> discussed  as a rechartering item in DIME WG.
> >>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/dime/draft-korhonen-dime-pmip6-03.txt.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BR
> >>>>> Frank
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)" <[e-mail]>
> >>>>> To: <[e-mail]>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:34 PM
> >>>>> Subject: [netlmm] About the Agenda for the meeting - 
> your input is needed
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello everybody,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I didn't have the possibility before today to combine 
> the agenda, though I
> >>>>> kind of knew what to expect. I think we have a problem 
> for which I would
> >>>>> like to ask for your help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> First of all the proposed skeleton is the following:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Network-based Local Mobility Management (NetLMM)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> TUESDAY, March 11, 2008
> >>>>> 0900-1130 Morning Session I
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chairs: 
> >>>>> Jonne Soininen <[e-mail]>
> >>>>> Vidya Narayanan <[e-mail]>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> PRELIMINARIES
> >>>>> Agenda review
> >>>>> Blue sheets
> >>>>> Notes and Jabber scribe
> >>>>> WG status
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WG DRAFT DISCUSSIONS
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Topic: Proxy Mobile IPv6
> >>>>> Draft: draft-ietf-netlmm-proxymip6-11.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Topic: IPv4 Support for Proxy Mobile IPv6
> >>>>> Draft: draft-ietf-netlmm-pmip6-ipv4-support-02.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Topic: Interface between a Proxy MIPv6 Mobility Access 
> Gateway and a Mobile
> >>>>> Node
> >>>>> Draft: draft-ietf-netlmm-mn-ar-if-03
> >>>>>
> >>>>> POSSIBLE NEW WORK ITEMS
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Presentations of the possible new work items
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RECHARTERING DISCUSSIONS
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NEXT STEPS and WRAP UP
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> So we have basically 2.5 hours to spend, and we _have 
> to_ discuss the
> >>>>> current WG drafts, and get to understand what are we 
> doing going forward.
> >>>>> The emphasis of the work has to be on these two things.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have listed the following requests for presentations 
> (the order is not
> >>>>> important):
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Multiple Interface Support with PMIPv6 (15 Min) - Vijay
> >>>>>  (draft-devarapalli-netlmm-multihoming-02.txt)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -PMIPv6 Heartbeat Mechanism (10 Min) - Vijay
> >>>>>  (draft-devarapalli-netlmm-pmipv6-heartbeat-01.txt)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -PMIPv6 and MIPv4 interactions (10 min) - Vijay
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Multihoming Scenarios (10 min) - Ahmad
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -GRE keying (5 min) - Ahmad
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Route Optimization (10 min) - Christian
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Inter-MAG Route Optimization (10 min) Ashutosh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Inter-technology handover extensions (10 min) - Marco
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -PMIPv6 support Transient CoA Registration (10 min) - Ahmad
> >>>>>  draft-muhanna-netlmm-pmipv6-support-transient-coa-00.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Proxy Network Mobility (10 Min) - John
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Secondary Binding Cache Entries for PMIP (10 min) - Oliver
> >>>>>  draft-blume-netlmm-secondary-bce-proxymip6ho-00.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Multiple interface support (10 min) - Mohana
> >>>>>  draft-jeyatharan-netlmm-multi-interface-ps-01.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Proxy Mobile IPv6 indication and discovery (10 min) - Basavaraj
> >>>>> draft-damic-netlmm-pmip6-ind-discover-03.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And I'm pretty sure I forgot something (please remind 
> me if I did).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem is that this does not really fit. We cannot 
> have all of these
> >>>>> presentations and accomplish our main goal of the 
> meeting. So, I think we
> >>>>> have to compress and rethink the presentations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> However, I see some patterns/groups (again the order is 
> not of importance):
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Interaction
> >>>>>  -PMIP6-MIP4
> >>>>>  -PMIP6-MIP6 (presented in earlier meeting)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Multiple interface support/Multihoming
> >>>>>  -Vijay
> >>>>>  -Mohana
> >>>>>  -Ahmad
> >>>>>  -Marco?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Route Optimization
> >>>>>  -Christian
> >>>>>  -Ashutosh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Multiple COA Registration
> >>>>>  -Ahmad
> >>>>>  -Oliver
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Others
> >>>>>  -GRE keying (Ahmad)
> >>>>>  -Heart Beat (Vijay)
> >>>>>  -PMIP indication and discovery (Basavaraj)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Could we do some grouping here or cooperation to get 
> the different problems
> >>>>> areas at least presented? In addition, I would think it 
> would be good to
> >>>>> get
> >>>>> the items presented that it seems our "customers" like 
> 3GPP, 3GPP2, and
> >>>>> Wimax Forum expect us to get done. I think this is 
> extremely important
> >>>>> input
> >>>>> for the rechartering discussion.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any ideas or suggestions?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jonne.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PS. I think we will let only the people enter the 
> meeting room who have
> >>>>> commented/reviewed the remaining WG items we have in 
> the current charter...
> >>>>> ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PS/2: Any volunteers for Jabber scribes and minute takers?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>           
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