Re: [Netmod-ver-dt] YANG versioning meetings

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From: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>, Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>, "netmod-chairs@ietf.org" <netmod-chairs@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Netmod-ver-dt] YANG versioning meetings
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Hi Lou,

Thanks for the clarification.

Regards,
Rob


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
> Sent: 15 April 2020 22:43
> To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>; Kent Watsen
> <kent+ietf@watsen.net>; netmod-chairs@ietf.org
> Cc: netmod-ver-dt@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Netmod-ver-dt] YANG versioning meetings
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
> On 4/15/2020 12:19 PM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote:
> > Hi Lou,
> >
> > [As an individual contributor to the DT]
> 
> > I believe the key aim here is to have a convenient handle to email the
> set of folks actively editing these documents.
> >
> > Using the -authors aliases might be somewhat awkward given that not
> everyone who is currently actively working in the design team is listed as
> an author on all documents and some discussions still transverse multiple
> drafts.
> >
> > Please can I check - would you also be opposed to having a
> > closed/private alias with just the document authors on? [This could
> > expand to the full set of draft-authors aliases.]
> >
> > Or is your point that all email discussion on topics that span more than
> one WG document should really be on the WG alias anyway?
> 
> exactly!  This will help foster consensus on the work going forward as
> well as bring in others who may wish to contribute to to the detailed
> solution.
> 
> Lou
> 
> 
> > Thanks,
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
> >> Sent: 15 April 2020 16:50
> >> To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>; Kent Watsen
> >> <kent+ietf@watsen.net>; netmod-chairs@ietf.org
> >> Cc: netmod-ver-dt@ietf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Netmod-ver-dt] YANG versioning meetings
> >>
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >>       I have negative experiences with open side lists for specific
> >> WG topics -- basically the  list becomes so large that discussions
> >> that should take place on the WG list happen on the side list and end
> >> up including only those "in the know" -- in short I do object to
> >> having an open (to subscription) side mail list.
> >>
> >> At this point I suggest using the standard document list expansions
> >> for authors discussions.  Wider discussions can be on the WG list.
> >> We can also leave the DT untouched so that the archive remains and
> >> give folks time to transition to the new mode of working.
> >>
> >> Lou
> >>
> >> On 4/15/2020 5:04 AM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote:
> >>> I’ve also checked with Warren.  I had queried whether it would be
> >>> okay to create a separate alias for the authors.  He has no concerns
> >>> but also suggested just opening up the existing netmod-ver-dt (the
> >>> archives have always been public).
> >>>
> >>> Do the chairs have any objections to keeping the netmod-ver-dt
> >>> alias, making it open, and cleaning up the description to remove the
> >>> design team references?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Rob
> >>>
> >>> *From:*Netmod-ver-dt <netmod-ver-dt-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of
> >>> *Kent Watsen
> >>> *Sent:* 10 April 2020 03:16
> >>> *To:* Reshad Rahman (rrahman) <rrahman@cisco.com>
> >>> *Cc:* netmod-chairs@ietf.org; netmod-ver-dt@ietf.org
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Netmod-ver-dt] YANG versioning meetings
> >>>
> >>> I think that it’s up to the authors now, but I have no issues with
> >>> scheduling a WebEx for you, if that’s what you’d like…is it?
> >>>
> >>> Separately, Rob was asking before about keeping the “netmod-ver-dt”
> >>> alias, which I also have no issue with.
> >>>
> >>> Co-chairs agree?
> >>>
> >>> K.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      On Apr 9, 2020, at 5:16 PM, Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
> >>>      <rrahman@cisco.com <mailto:rrahman@cisco.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      Hi chairs,
> >>>
> >>>      Now that VERDT is over, will you be scheduling a regular meeting
> >>>      (inviting the WG) or is that up to the authors?
> >>>
> >>>      Regards,
> >>>
> >>>      Reshad.
> >>>
> >>>
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