Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis)
Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com> Fri, 16 February 2018 16:04 UTC
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From: Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com>
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:04:08 +0000
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Subject: Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis)
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On 16/02/2018 15:33, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com> writes: > >> Hi Lada, >> >> >> On 16/02/2018 09:06, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >>> Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com> writes: >>> >>>> I should add, as a contributor, I have read this document and think that >>>> is ready for advancement. >>>> >>>> I have three minor comments: >>>> >>>> 1) module "feature" in YANG library is a leaf-list, but currently it is >>>> a list in YANG libary bis. I suspect that this is due to one of the >>>> incarnations when it contained additional information. I think that we >>>> should revert it back to being a leaf list for consistency. >>>> >>>> 2) Lada recommended that module "deviation" be made a leaf-list. I also >>>> support changing this for consistency with "feature" above, but don't >>>> feel too strongly on this one. >>> I agree to have both as leaf-lists. >>> >>>> 3) I think the "modules" list is also allowed to included modules that >>>> don't actually contain any nodes that require implementation. Hence, it >>>> might be useful of the "modules" description statement explicitly stated >>>> this. I.e. perhaps something like: >>>> >>>> "This list may contain modules that do not contain any schema nodes that >>>> require implementation. For example, it could contain a module that >>>> only defines types and not any data nodes, RPCs, actions, notifications, >>>> or deviations." >>> Hmm, such modules belong to the other list "import-only-modules", don't >>> they? >> So my reasoning is that either is valid. >> >> I.e. a module being listed under "modules" means that it implements all >> data nodes, RPCs, actions, notifications, deviations, etc. If a module >> doesn't contain any data nodes, RPCs, actions, notifications, >> deviations, etc then it is trivially implemented :-) > OK, so if a module contains only groupings and typedefs, it can appear > either in "modules" or in "import-only-modules", and the effect is the > same, right? Yes. > > This sounds reasonable. > >> As an aside, RFC 7950 states in 5.6.5: >> >> A server implements a module if it implements the module's data >> nodes, RPCs, actions, notifications, and deviations. >> >> >> I wonder whether identities shouldn't also be on this list, since >> section 9.10.2 states: > Yes, and extensions as well. > > Lada Thanks, Rob > >> On a particular server, the valid values are further restricted >> to the set of identities defined in the modules implemented by the server. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Rob >> >> >>> Lada >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> On 02/02/2018 13:51, Kent Watsen wrote: >>>>> As co-author, I am not aware of any IPR related to this document. >>>>> >>>>> As a contributor, I have read this document and think that it is ready >>>>> for advancement. >>>>> >>>>> Kent >>>>> >>>>> On 2/2/18, 4:30 AM, "Netconf on behalf of Robert Wilton" >>>>> <netconf-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf >>>>> of rwilton@cisco.com <mailto:rwilton@cisco.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am not aware of any IPR related to this document. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Rob >>>>> >>>>> On 01/02/2018 18:59, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: >>>>> >>>>> WG, >>>>> >>>>> The authors of rfc7895bis have indicated that they believe the >>>>> document is ready for LC[1]. >>>>> >>>>> This starts a two week LC on the draft >>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dietf-2Dnetconf-2Drfc7895bis-2D04&d=DwMD-g&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=9zkP0xnJUvZGJ9EPoOH7Yhqn2gsBYaGTvjISlaJdcZo&m=fi_opjj4kio7eufRXSQSi8dSjJNlkVDo8a1F0zsCrfE&s=MqbVljnYqIk9w78kcfp7oUqGR-qVoNV90njyTwLAdpc&e=>. >>>>> The LC will end on February 15. >>>>> >>>>> Please send your comments on this thread. Reviews of the document, >>>>> and statement of support are particularly helpful to the authors. >>>>> If you have concerns about the document, please state those too. >>>>> >>>>> Authors please indicate if you are aware of any IPR on the document. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netconf/current/msg13980.html >>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mail-2Darchive_web_netconf_current_msg13980.html&d=DwMD-g&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=9zkP0xnJUvZGJ9EPoOH7Yhqn2gsBYaGTvjISlaJdcZo&m=fi_opjj4kio7eufRXSQSi8dSjJNlkVDo8a1F0zsCrfE&s=XhRSSTWifO-SkPi2CWK5Z5aUni2F1qRQ8Moj7T7gI-Y&e=> >>>>> >>>>> Mahesh & Kent >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Netconf mailing list >>>>> >>>>> Netconf@ietf.org <mailto:Netconf@ietf.org> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf >>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_netconf&d=DwMD-g&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=9zkP0xnJUvZGJ9EPoOH7Yhqn2gsBYaGTvjISlaJdcZo&m=fi_opjj4kio7eufRXSQSi8dSjJNlkVDo8a1F0zsCrfE&s=mcDF-v5I4epgsuWLHvr32pZ5mRonROKN8zpKcZWBC0o&e=> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Netconf mailing list >>>> Netconf@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf >> _______________________________________________ >> Netconf mailing list >> Netconf@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf
- [netmod] LC on YANG Library (bis) Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Alexander Clemm
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Alexander Clemm
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Alexander Clemm
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Alexander Clemm
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] [Netconf] LC on YANG Library (bis) Mahesh Jethanandani