Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model
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From: "Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" <bart.bogaert@nokia.com>
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com>
CC: Vladimir Vassilev <vladimir@transpacket.com>, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>, "netmod@ietf.org" <netmod@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model
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That's why these counters are optional in the model: if there is nothing to return we should indeed not return 0... -----Original Message----- From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de] Sent: 14 June 2017 11:40 To: Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com> Cc: Vladimir Vassilev <vladimir@transpacket.com>; Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>; Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.bogaert@nokia.com>; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:15:22AM +0100, Robert Wilton wrote: > > Returning zero values here is not useful, in fact it is misleading. I > think that if a server doesn't have a value to return for a particular > node it is much better to return nothing than to return a false value. +1. It took us years to kill this attitude in SNMP land. Saying a counter is zero and never changes is largely misleading if you actually have no such counter. It is easy to waste hours of expensive engineering time by given people fake counters. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Vladimir Vassilev
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Alex Campbell
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Igor Bryskin
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Igor Bryskin
- Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model Vladimir Vassilev