Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Wed, 28 November 2018 10:20 UTC
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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 09:41:12AM +0000, Balázs Lengyel wrote: > > > I do not buy this story. Your software needs to decide somehow what > > instance data means. A config true leaf in candidate means something > > different than the same config true leaf in running and this yet again > > means something different than the same config true leaf in operational. > > > > /js > > BALAZS: As I understood the WG decided that this draft should only be about > the format of the yang instance data. What the SW does with it is out of > scope. So considerations whether instance data should be loaded into running > or candidate or not at all, are outside the scope. If you do not know what the instance data means, any attempt to use it is kind of broken. > I want to provide a datastore indicator, but how that should be used (and > thus what is exactly means) is out of scope. I disagree. The datastore indicator is needed to understand what the data means, i.e., to do anything meaningful with it. > Anyway in some cases it would be problematic to define a single datastore > parameter. E.g. the draft allows the real world use case of putting config > and state data in the same file. In this case state data is associated with > operational while config data is with running/candidate. In the non-NMDA > case I do not even know what the correct daatastore is for state data. We created NMDA because mixing <running> with <operational> is broken in a number of cases. I am fine to accept that the datastore indicator may be absent paired with a clear warning that in this case it is undefined what the data means. (And I will hope that robust implementations will avoid working with data that has unclear semantics or at least generate warnings.) /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-… Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Balázs Lengyel
- [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Qin Wu
- [netmod] yang-instance-file-format - do we need a… Balázs Lengyel
- [netmod] yang-instance-file-format - do we need a… Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] yang-instance-file-format - do we ne… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] yang-instance-file-format - do we ne… Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Datastore leaf for yang instance data Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] yang-instance-file-format - do we ne… Qin Wu