Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Thu, 24 December 2020 08:24 UTC
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 09:24:31 +0100
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
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On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:08:52PM +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > ECA work has a long 20+ year tradition in the IETF and several > specifications have been published over the years by various working > groups. As far as I can tell, none of them got traction in terms of > signifiant deployment of interoperable implementations. > > I would have hoped that the next iteration of ECA work would have > started with a deep reflection about why all the previous attempts > failed to gain traction and some genuine insights how to design things > differently in order to improve the likelihood to have impact. > Let me be a bit more explicit. I would have expected that the senior IETF people mentioned as co-authors or contributors, who are very well familiar with the relevant history (Benoit Claise, Andy Bierman, Alex Clemm), would have explained here (or in the document) why this approach to create an interoperable standard for ECA has potential to succeed given the limited success of the prior attempts. Adopting this work without having answered this question seems premature. If the proponents of this work do not have an answer to this question, the WG will likely not find one either. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://www.jacobs-university.de/>
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- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… duzongpeng@foxmail.com
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- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… liupengyjy@outlook.com
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Jan Lindblad
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… xiechf@chinatelecom.cn
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… ybliu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Wubo (lana)
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Henk Birkholz
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Chang Liu(联通集团中国联通研究院-本部)
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… andy L
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Lingli Deng
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Dhruv Dhody
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… tom petch
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… tom petch
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… tom petch
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… Diego R. Lopez
- Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-e… tom petch
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