Re: [netmod] [Anima] revising RFC8366 -- Re: BRSKI-AE enum issue -> empty, but what's he encoding ?

Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@alumni.stanford.edu> Mon, 05 July 2021 17:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [netmod] [Anima] revising RFC8366 -- Re: BRSKI-AE enum issue -> empty, but what's he encoding ?
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Hi -

On 2021-07-05 9:13 AM, tom petch wrote:
...
> Well my answer would be that confusion reigns.  An IANA Registry is > authoritative so the minute the RFC is published asking IANA to
> maintain a module, then the module in RFC8366(-bis) is obsolete.
> Trouble is, that the rest of the RFC - if any - is not.
...

There are other straightforward ways to deal with this.

In ltru the I-Ds contained both material for publication
in the RFC as well as a *massive* amount of material for
population of the IANA language tag registry.  We needed
it in I-D form for review during development, but wanted to
remove all temptation to use the RFC instead of the IANA
registry.

All it took was a word of instruction to the RFC editor
to delete the many many many pages of registry content
upon publication.  Worked fine.

In this case, just tell the RFC editor to delete the
IANA-maintained module.

Randy