Re: [Netrqmts] [Inform] Meeting Network Costs

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Fri, 21 June 2019 13:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Netrqmts] [Inform] Meeting Network Costs
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Bob:

>>    Is this group also looking at evaluating how the IETF does remote participation?  
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> I want to be mindful that we don't stray from the focus on the BoF, which is to explore meeting network requirements. The numbers Portia supplied were intended to give a sense for how much it costs to support a meeting technically, which includes the network itself, the NOC, and the various technical tools involved. 
> 
> If you’d like to discuss changes to remote participation, I'm not sure if the BoF is the right place - maybe ask the co-chairs. 

The on-site network needs to support the video and audio streaming for remote participation.  That means both directions, video and audio out from the meeting rooms to remote participants, and video and audio into the meeting room from remote participants.  What other *network* requirements do you have in mind?

Russ