Re: [Netrqmts] [Inform] Meeting Network Costs

Bob Hinden <> Thu, 20 June 2019 20:27 UTC

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Looking at this, I have a few questions for you and Portia.

If I understand it correctly, “in kind” means services donated to the IETF.   Is that correct?  If so, it’s not an actual cost.  

Remote Participation Services are not a direct NOC expense.   It is to provide service to remote IETF participants.  Why is it included here?


> On Jun 20, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Livingood, Jason <> wrote:
> Hi – In preparation for the BoF at IETF-105, I wanted to share what the LLC’s costs look like (from Portia). This isn’t necessarily to suggest a need to make cuts – so please do **NOT** interpret it in that way! Rather, it is to give a sense of what the costs really are for accommodating our requirements; our direct costs. The indirect costs may be thought of as venues that cannot accommodate our requirements (so Alexa may have some sense of that in advance of the BoF).
> Portia is the expert on these costs, and so if you have any questions then she’s the right person to respond.
> Thanks!
> Jason
> <NOC_Expenses_102-104.pdf>-- 
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