Re: [nfsv4] Proposed charter changes (with updates)

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Wed, 03 June 2020 13:54 UTC

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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Proposed charter changes (with updates)
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Hi,

I think the last sentence of the last paragraph will get comments by the IESG.
It is a bit to much a blank check for you to go do anything which IETF doesn't
already do. So are there ways to be more specific?

Otherwise it might be possible to add some safe guard to this sentence. However,
I would actually prefer that we rather run through rechartering if you want to
updated or extend things in areas outside of your current scope.

Cheers

Magnus

On Sun, 2020-05-24 at 07:25 -0400, David Noveck wrote:
> First of all, thanks to Daniel and Tom for corrections/suggestions.
> 
> I am proposing replacing the second paragraph of the extensions section which
> now reads:
> 
> > Similarly, associated ONC protocol components that have a versioning/
> > extension framework can be incrementally extended, when necessary.
> 
> By the following two-paragraph replacement:
> 
> > In dealing with needed extensions to areas that underlay NFSv4, the working
> > group's role will depend on the specific area needing extension.  In the
> > case of associated ONC protocol components, those that have a
> > versioning/extension framework can be incrementally extended, when
> > necessary.
> > 
> > In the case of lower-layer facilities of particular importance to NFSv4, the
> > working group will work with the responsible working group to make sure
> > needed extensions are available.  In cases in which there is no assigned
> > working group, it can help develop the necessary extension itself.
> 
> 
-- 
Cheers

Magnus Westerlund 


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