Re: [nfsv4] AD review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis-11

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <> Wed, 09 August 2017 17:33 UTC

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Just to say something more clearly than I actually said it last time (take
2) ...

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 5:53 AM, David Noveck <> wrote:

> I think this is OK.  I know that there is reason to worry about SECDIR but
> there is only so much you can usefully do, until they actually have
> something to look at.

"Some of my best friends are SECDIR reviewers", so I'd encourage people not
to worry about them. My comments on the original text in this draft
reflected my thought that the text was potentially sending a SECDIR
reviewer down a rabbit hole

I imagine that SECDIR might be worried that direct placement could somehow
> open a hole whereby data might inadvertantly be transferred in the clear.
> For example, if I ordered a "Large pizza with direct pepperoni placement"
> :), the pepperoni cannot be directly placed if privcy is in effect, but
> this sort of thing is aprropriately dealt with in RFC8166, as it should be.

That's exactly the kind of thing I think SECDIR reviewers should be
thinking about - and working group participants as well.

Thanks for making that clearer than I could.