Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis-09
Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com> Mon, 08 May 2017 12:36 UTC
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis-09
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On 5/4/2017 11:00 AM, Chuck Lever wrote: > I've tried to address your concerns, and I changed the segment count > limit to document what we know about the current Solaris implementations. > I liked the "be conservative in what you send" idea, but I couldn't find > a way to work it in that was not awkward. > > If this text is OK, I'll submit a fresh I-D revision after WGLC ends on > Friday. Well that wasn't enough time for me to respond since I was traveling from SambaXP in Germany, but the text does look better. The statement below makes no requirement on the server. > 5.4.2. Chunk List Complexity >... > To avoid encountering server chunk list complexity limits, NFS > version 4 clients SHOULD follow the below prescriptions when > constructing transport headers: > > o The Read list can contain either a Position-Zero Read chunk, one > Read chunk with a non-zero Position, or both. > > o The Write list can contain no more than one Write chunk. > > o Any chunk can contain up to sixteen RDMA segments. I would suggest the following modifications to the above. "In accordance with chunk list processing limits of existing server implementations, NFS Version 4 clients SHOULD maximally follow the below prescriptions when constructing requests to be transported by RPC-over-RDMA. Additionally, NFS Version 4 servers SHOULD minimally be prepared to accept and process such requests." > NFS version 4 clients wishing to send more complex chunk lists can > provide configuration interfaces to bound the complexity of NFS > version 4 COMPOUNDs, limit the number of elements in scatter-gather > operations, and avoid other sources of RPC-over-RDMA chunk overruns > at the receiving peer. > > An NFS Version 4 server has some flexibility in how it indicates that > an RPC-over-RDMA Version One message received from an NFS Version 4 > client is valid but cannot be processed. Examples include: Strongly suggest deleting the words "has some flexibility" and "Examples include". We've already had this discussion, so I will just suggest the following. "An NFS Version 4 server SHOULD return one of the following responses to a client which has sent a request containing RPC-over-RDMA chunks which cannot be processed due to exceeding server implementation limits" Tom. > o A problem is detected by the transport layer while parsing the > transport header in an RPC Call message. The server responds with > an RDMA_ERROR message with the err field set to ERR_CHUNK. > > o A problem is detected during XDR decoding of the RPC Call message > while the RPC layer reassembles the call's XDR stream. The server > responds with an RPC reply with its "reply_stat" field set to > MSG_ACCEPTED and its "accept_stat" field set to GARBAGE_ARGS. > > After receiving one of these errors, an NFS version 4 client SHOULD > NOT retransmit the failing request, as the result would be the same > error. It SHOULD immediately terminate the RPC transaction > associated with the XID in the reply.
- [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis-09 David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… karen deitke
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… karen deitke
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… karen deitke
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… karen deitke
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… karen deitke
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… karen deitke
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… karen deitke
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… spencer shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis… Tom Talpey