Re: [NGO] NETCONF-related sessions at IETF 70

Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net> Mon, 26 November 2007 06:22 UTC

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To: Sharon Chisholm <schishol@nortel.com>
Subject: Re: [NGO] NETCONF-related sessions at IETF 70
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Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:21:32 -0500
From: Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net>
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"Sharon Chisholm" writes:
>Either that or for more detailed discussion of the items in the updated
>NETCONF charter.

Another thought is to come up with a list of the five biggest
impediments to NETCONF's complete domination of the configuration
space.  Do we know the answers to questions like:

- Why aren't/won't device folks shipping netconf implementations?
- Why aren't/won't application writers moving to NETCONF?
- Why isn't NETCONF becoming the answer to configuration problems?
- What's stopping it?
- Where's the chicken?
- What's the egg?
- What's the key to moving forward from here?
- Where should we be concentrating our (precious and few) resources?
- Will any of the new charter items be on this list?

Thanks,
 Phil


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