Re: [nmrg] IETF BOF proposal on autonomic networking use cases (better link)

[Lisandro Zambenedetti Granville <[e-mail]>]

>> You are right, this is the cornerstone of the work and needs to be updated
>> with recent discussions and thoughts. This will also be on the agenda for the
>> NMRG.
>> Then make sure NMRG is at the beginning of the week,  basically before the
>> BoF.
> 
> Absolutely! I've already expressed that wish to Lisandro, who has passed it on to the agenda folks. 

Which I confirm: the request has been posted in the agenda request.

Lisandro


>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Benoit Claise (bclaise)
>>>> Sent: 06 June 2014 12:08
>>>> To: Brian E Carpenter; Michael Behringer (mbehring)
>>>> Cc: [e-mail]
>>>> Subject: Re: [nmrg] IETF BOF proposal on autonomic networking use
>>>> cases (better link)
>>>> 
>>>> On 15/05/2014 22:05, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>>>> On 15/05/2014 23:25, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote:
>>>>>> Brian, Jefferson,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I really think we should get as many use cases as possible. The
>>>>>> more we
>>>> have, the easier it will be to see patterns in communication, policy
>>>> and other requirements.
>>>>> I completely agree. If you look at the RTCweb use cases draft, it
>>>>> contains 15 distinct use cases, from which they extracted 36
>>>>> separate requirements. If we have too many use cases to fit into one
>>>>> BOF, that would be an excellent result!
>>>> One of the issues with many use cases is: where do you draw the line
>>>> between what is an AN use cases and what is not?
>>>> There is so many features that have an AN aspect.
>>>> Should all AN use cases follow the design goals in
>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-network-definiti
>>>> ons-
>>>> 00?
>>>> If yes, then you guys should really spend some time finishing up this
>> work.
>>>> This draft has not been updated for 6 months.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, Benoit
>>>> 
>>>>>     Brian
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Potential use case authors: Make sure you highlight why
>>>>>> distribution of
>>>> intelligence is preferred over a centralised solution. We will have
>>>> to answer many questions on "why not just centralise this
>>>> functionality?", "Why do we need this functionality?". So it is
>>>> important to bring out the advantages of an autonomic approach.
>>>>>> Who else is thinking of contributing a use case?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nmrg [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Brian E
>>>>>>> Carpenter
>>>>>>> Sent: 15 May 2014 02:49
>>>>>>> To: Jéferson Campos Nobre
>>>>>>> Cc: [e-mail]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nmrg] IETF BOF proposal on autonomic networking use
>>>>>>> cases (better link)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, firstly, the BOF is not approved yet and we will not get a
>>>>>>> decision until about June 13.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But of course it would be great to have more use cases published.
>>>>>>> At the moment we've timed the proposed agenda for a total of 4
>>>>>>> cases, and if we get too many we may have to limit the time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Personally I think that a measurement use case would be very
>>>>>>> interesting, because it's a bit different from traditional network
>>>> management actions.
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>     Brian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 15/05/2014 12:01, Jéferson Campos Nobre wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Brian.
>>>>>>>> Is it still possible to add use cases for presentation at the BOF?
>>>>>>>> Lisandro and I are working in an draft about autonomic control of
>>>>>>>> measurement probes which is based on the material presented at
>>>>>>>> the 31st and 32nd NMRG meetings. The draft should be finished in
>>>>>>>> a couple of weeks.
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>> Best.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jéferson Campos Nobre
>>>>>>>> PhD Student
>>>>>>>> Computer Networks Group -  Institute of Informatics Federal
>>>>>>>> University of Rio Grande do Sul http://www.inf.ufrgs.br/~jcnobre
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Brian E Carpenter
>>>>>>>> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#UCANproposal
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Discussion here, and further use case documents, both very
>> welcome.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     Brian
>>>>>>>>> 
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