Re: [nmrg] IETF BOF proposal on autonomic networking use cases (better link)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benoit Claise (bclaise)
> Sent: 06 June 2014 17:32
> To: Michael Behringer (mbehring); Brian E Carpenter
> Cc: nmrg@irtf.org
> Subject: Re: [nmrg] IETF BOF proposal on autonomic networking use cases
> (better link)
> 
> On 6/06/2014 17:24, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote:
> > Benoit,
> >
> > We will have another version out of the definitions draft before the IETF.
> You are right, this is the cornerstone of the work and needs to be updated
> with recent discussions and thoughts. This will also be on the agenda for the
> NMRG.
> Then make sure NMRG is at the beginning of the week,  basically before the
> BoF.

Absolutely! I've already expressed that wish to Lisandro, who has passed it on to the agenda folks. 

Michael

> Regards, Benoit
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Benoit Claise (bclaise)
> >> Sent: 06 June 2014 12:08
> >> To: Brian E Carpenter; Michael Behringer (mbehring)
> >> Cc: nmrg@irtf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [nmrg] IETF BOF proposal on autonomic networking use
> >> cases (better link)
> >>
> >> On 15/05/2014 22:05, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> >>> On 15/05/2014 23:25, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote:
> >>>> Brian, Jefferson,
> >>>>
> >>>> I really think we should get as many use cases as possible. The
> >>>> more we
> >> have, the easier it will be to see patterns in communication, policy
> >> and other requirements.
> >>> I completely agree. If you look at the RTCweb use cases draft, it
> >>> contains 15 distinct use cases, from which they extracted 36
> >>> separate requirements. If we have too many use cases to fit into one
> >>> BOF, that would be an excellent result!
> >> One of the issues with many use cases is: where do you draw the line
> >> between what is an AN use cases and what is not?
> >> There is so many features that have an AN aspect.
> >> Should all AN use cases follow the design goals in
> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-network-definiti
> >> ons-
> >> 00?
> >> If yes, then you guys should really spend some time finishing up this
> work.
> >> This draft has not been updated for 6 months.
> >>
> >> Regards, Benoit
> >>
> >>>      Brian
> >>>
> >>>> Potential use case authors: Make sure you highlight why
> >>>> distribution of
> >> intelligence is preferred over a centralised solution. We will have
> >> to answer many questions on "why not just centralise this
> >> functionality?", "Why do we need this functionality?". So it is
> >> important to bring out the advantages of an autonomic approach.
> >>>> Who else is thinking of contributing a use case?
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: nmrg [mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E
> >>>>> Carpenter
> >>>>> Sent: 15 May 2014 02:49
> >>>>> To: Jéferson Campos Nobre
> >>>>> Cc: nmrg@irtf.org
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nmrg] IETF BOF proposal on autonomic networking use
> >>>>> cases (better link)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, firstly, the BOF is not approved yet and we will not get a
> >>>>> decision until about June 13.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But of course it would be great to have more use cases published.
> >>>>> At the moment we've timed the proposed agenda for a total of 4
> >>>>> cases, and if we get too many we may have to limit the time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Personally I think that a measurement use case would be very
> >>>>> interesting, because it's a bit different from traditional network
> >> management actions.
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>>      Brian
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 15/05/2014 12:01, Jéferson Campos Nobre wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Brian.
> >>>>>> Is it still possible to add use cases for presentation at the BOF?
> >>>>>> Lisandro and I are working in an draft about autonomic control of
> >>>>>> measurement probes which is based on the material presented at
> >>>>>> the 31st and 32nd NMRG meetings. The draft should be finished in
> >>>>>> a couple of weeks.
> >>>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>> Best.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jéferson Campos Nobre
> >>>>>> PhD Student
> >>>>>> Computer Networks Group -  Institute of Informatics Federal
> >>>>>> University of Rio Grande do Sul http://www.inf.ufrgs.br/~jcnobre
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Brian E Carpenter
> >>>>>> <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#UCANproposal
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Discussion here, and further use case documents, both very
> welcome.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>      Brian
> >>>>>>>
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