RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-req-03.txt
"Georgios Karagiannis (ELN)" <Georgios.Karagiannis@eln.ericsson.se> Thu, 11 July 2002 10:00 UTC
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From: "Georgios Karagiannis (ELN)" <Georgios.Karagiannis@eln.ericsson.se>
To: "'Hancock, Robert'" <robert.hancock@roke.co.uk>, brunner@ccrle.nec.de, "'john.loughney@nokia.com'" <john.loughney@nokia.com>, nsis@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-req-03.txt
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:38:04 +0200
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Hi Robert What I proposed is related to modularity and is similar to the concept described in draft-braden-2level-signal-arch-00.txt and in Section 5.5 in draft-hancock-nsis-fw-00, also draft-westberg-nsis-edge-edge-framework-00. The concept in all these drafts is the same, namely, separate the protocol functionality in more than one layers. In draft-braden-2level-signal-arch-00.txt this separation is done in two layers were the functionality is split between transport and application functionality. In Section 5.5 in draft-hancock-nsis-fw-00 and also draft-westberg-nsis-edge-edge-framework-00 the protocol functionality is split in three layers. Therefore, I think that the proposed bullet is relevant and its right place is the modularity section. Best Regards, Georgios -----Original Message----- From: Hancock, Robert [mailto:robert.hancock@roke.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:04 AM To: brunner@ccrle.nec.de; Georgios Karagiannis (ELN); 'john.loughney@nokia.com'; nsis@ietf.org Subject: RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-req-03.txt hi, i'm slightly baffled by this. i was taking a wild guess that georgios was referring to nsis-triggering-nsis scenarios (e.g. 5.5 in draft-hancock-nsis-fw-00, also draft-westberg-nsis-edge-edge-framework-00). if that's the case, isn't it covered by 5.3.6? [actually, i'm not certain that this turns into a feature visible in the protocol, it could be just a way of using the protocol; but we'll discover that during the framework.] if georgios is referring to transport/application layering as in draft-braden-2level-signal-arch-00.txt then isn't this covered by 5.1.4 (although we should probably refer to something more general than QoS...). i certainly don't like the term 'hierarchical' for this. georgios, what is your concern? robert > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus Brunner [mailto:brunner@ccrle.nec.de] > Sent: 10 July 2002 17:09 > To: Georgios Karagiannis (ELN); 'john.loughney@nokia.com'; > nsis@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-req-03.txt > > > John is right I aslo don't like multi-level XXX difficult to > understand. I > regard modularity as the right word in the title, but I will > go over the > text such that in really includes what Georgios means. > > Marcus > > --On Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2002 17:46 +0200 "Georgios Karagiannis (ELN)" > <Georgios.Karagiannis@eln.ericsson.se> wrote: > > > Hi John > > > > What about muliu level signaling? > > > > best regards, > > Georgios > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: john.loughney@nokia.com [mailto:john.loughney@nokia.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 5:45 PM > > To: brunner@ccrle.nec.de; Georgios.Karagiannis@eln.ericsson.se; > > nsis@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-req-03.txt > > > > > > Hi Marcus, > > > >> Ok, I agree I will do some polishing of this for -04 > >> Marcus > >> > >> --On Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2002 15:58 +0200 "Georgios > Karagiannis (ELN)" > >> <Georgios.Karagiannis@eln.ericsson.se> wrote: > >> > >> > Hi Marcus > >> > > >> > The hierarchical levels are refering to protocol > >> functionality levels. > >> > A similar concept is presented in > >> draft-braden-2level-signal-arch-00.txt > >> > where two levels of protocol functionality are defined. > > > > I think this is OK, however I don't like the term 'hierarchical' > > in this case. > > > > John > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nsis mailing list > > nsis@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis > > > > -------------------------------------- > Dr. Marcus Brunner > Network Laboratories > NEC Europe Ltd. > > E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de > WWW: http://www.ccrle.nec.de/ > personal home page: http://www.brubers.org/marcus ======================================================================================== Permission is hereby granted to pass the contents of this communication to third parties and any restrictions regarding confidentiality do not apply. _______________________________________________ nsis mailing list nsis@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis
- [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-req-… Georgios Karagiannis (ELN)
- Re: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… Marcus Brunner
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… Georgios Karagiannis (ELN)
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… Marcus Brunner
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… john.loughney
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… john.loughney
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… Georgios Karagiannis (ELN)
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… Georgios Karagiannis (ELN)
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… Marcus Brunner
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… Hancock, Robert
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… Georgios Karagiannis (ELN)
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… Marcus Brunner
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… john.loughney
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… Georgios Karagiannis (ELN)
- RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-… Marcus Brunner