RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-req-03.txt

Marcus Brunner <brunner@ccrle.nec.de> Thu, 11 July 2002 10:13 UTC

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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:00:23 +0200
From: Marcus Brunner <brunner@ccrle.nec.de>
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To: "Georgios Karagiannis (ELN)" <Georgios.Karagiannis@eln.ericsson.se>, "'Hancock, Robert'" <robert.hancock@roke.co.uk>, "'john.loughney@nokia.com'" <john.loughney@nokia.com>, nsis@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-req-03.txt
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Georgios,

Do you think we need more than two layers. If you say hierarchical do you 
mean N layers?

Marcus

--On Donnerstag, 11. Juli 2002 11:38 +0200 "Georgios Karagiannis (ELN)" 
<Georgios.Karagiannis@eln.ericsson.se> wrote:

> Hi Robert
>
> What I proposed is related to modularity and is similar to
> the concept described in draft-braden-2level-signal-arch-00.txt
> and in Section 5.5 in draft-hancock-nsis-fw-00, also
> draft-westberg-nsis-edge-edge-framework-00.
>
> The concept in all these drafts is the same, namely, separate the
> protocol functionality  in more than one layers.
> In draft-braden-2level-signal-arch-00.txt this separation is done in two
> layers were the functionality is split between transport and application
> functionality.  In Section 5.5 in draft-hancock-nsis-fw-00 and also
> draft-westberg-nsis-edge-edge-framework-00  the protocol functionality is
> split in three layers.
>
> Therefore, I think that the proposed bullet is relevant and its right
> place is the  modularity section.
>
> Best Regards,
> Georgios
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hancock, Robert [mailto:robert.hancock@roke.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:04 AM
> To: brunner@ccrle.nec.de; Georgios Karagiannis (ELN);
> 'john.loughney@nokia.com'; nsis@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-req-03.txt
>
>
> hi,
>
> i'm slightly baffled by this.
>
> i was taking a wild guess that georgios was referring to
> nsis-triggering-nsis scenarios (e.g. 5.5 in draft-hancock-nsis-fw-00,
> also draft-westberg-nsis-edge-edge-framework-00). if that's the case,
> isn't it covered by 5.3.6? [actually, i'm not certain that this turns
> into a feature visible in the protocol, it could be just a way of using
> the protocol; but we'll discover that during the framework.]
>
> if georgios is referring to transport/application layering as in
> draft-braden-2level-signal-arch-00.txt then isn't this covered by 5.1.4
> (although we should probably refer to something more general than
> QoS...). i certainly don't like the term 'hierarchical' for this.
>
> georgios, what is your concern?
>
> robert
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marcus Brunner [mailto:brunner@ccrle.nec.de]
>> Sent: 10 July 2002 17:09
>> To: Georgios Karagiannis (ELN); 'john.loughney@nokia.com';
>> nsis@ietf.org
>> Subject: RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-req-03.txt
>>
>>
>> John is right I aslo don't like multi-level XXX difficult to
>> understand. I
>> regard modularity as the right word in the title, but I will
>> go over the
>> text such that in really includes what Georgios means.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>> --On Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2002 17:46 +0200 "Georgios Karagiannis (ELN)"
>> <Georgios.Karagiannis@eln.ericsson.se> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi John
>> >
>> > What about muliu level signaling?
>> >
>> > best regards,
>> > Georgios
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: john.loughney@nokia.com [mailto:john.loughney@nokia.com]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 5:45 PM
>> > To: brunner@ccrle.nec.de; Georgios.Karagiannis@eln.ericsson.se;
>> > nsis@ietf.org
>> > Subject: RE: [NSIS] additional comment on draft-ietf-nsis-req-03.txt
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Marcus,
>> >
>> >> Ok, I agree I will do some polishing of this for -04
>> >> Marcus
>> >>
>> >> --On Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2002 15:58 +0200 "Georgios
>> Karagiannis (ELN)"
>> >> <Georgios.Karagiannis@eln.ericsson.se> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi Marcus
>> >> >
>> >> > The hierarchical levels are refering to protocol
>> >> functionality levels.
>> >> > A similar concept is presented in
>> >> draft-braden-2level-signal-arch-00.txt
>> >> > where two levels of protocol functionality are defined.
>> >
>> > I think this is OK, however I don't like the term 'hierarchical'
>> > in this case.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
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>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>> Dr. Marcus Brunner
>> Network Laboratories
>> NEC Europe Ltd.
>>
>> E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de
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