Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch
Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com> Mon, 20 April 2020 12:43 UTC
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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:43:41 +0200
From: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Franke <dfoxfranke@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 01:34:03PM -0400, Daniel Franke wrote: > At any rate, I second Doug Arnold that if a use case is > already well-served by PTP, then complicating NTPv5 on their behalf is > not solving anyone's problem. I think PTP and NTP have different goals, but overlapping use cases. PTP is basically NTP in broadcast mode, where the protocol is designed for hardware support to be as easy as possible. NTP may be more difficult to support in hardware, but if it could be supported, I think in many cases it would be preferred over PTP. A use case where the broadcast design of PTP is an issue (and where NTP would be preferred) is synchronization in large networks where both multicast and boundary clocks need to be avoided (e.g. to avoid long chains of servos). The unicast mode of PTP requires a client-specific state, which is an issue with larger numbers of clients (it's not unusual for GM clocks to support only 2048 clients or less), and there is also an issue that it has practically an infinite amplification factor, so the access needs to be carefully controlled. -- Miroslav Lichvar
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- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Dieter Sibold
- Re: [Ntp] [EXT] An NTPv5 design sketch Dieter Sibold
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Doug Arnold
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch James
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Daniel Franke
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch James
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Doug Arnold
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: An NTPv5 design sketch Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Doug Arnold
- [Ntp] Antwort: Re: An NTPv5 design sketch< kristof.teichel
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] An NTPv5 design sketch Kyle Rose
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: An NTPv5 design sketch Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: An NTPv5 design sketch Doug Arnold
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: An NTPv5 design s… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: An NTPv5 desi… Miroslav Lichvar