Re: [Ntp] The trick to timestamp with authentication
Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> Thu, 03 December 2020 23:36 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] The trick to timestamp with authentication
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doug.arnold@meinberg-usa.com said: > This could be handled using a symmetric group key that authorized nodes get > periodically from a key exchange server. See, for example GDOI. I believe > that NTS could be adapted to group key operation as well. The whole idea of patching an authenticated packet seems wrong. How much effort has gone into investigating alternatives? > I see you were paying attention. Accuracy and security are a trade-off. If > you want on path timing support and security, then you either have to have a > lot of secrets or a secret that a lot of nodes are in on. Either way it is > less secure than just NTS between a client and a server. However, in a > private network where someone wants microsecond level time transfer accuracy > that might be a sensible trade-off. That seems like a narrow market. It's a private network. They want authentication so they don't trust their network yet they do trust it enough to patch their authenticated packets. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.
- [Ntp] The trick to timestamp with authentication Watson Ladd
- Re: [Ntp] The trick to timestamp with authenticat… Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] The trick to timestamp with authenticat… Doug Arnold
- Re: [Ntp] The trick to timestamp with authenticat… Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] The trick to timestamp with authenticat… Doug Arnold
- Re: [Ntp] The trick to timestamp with authenticat… James
- Re: [Ntp] The trick to timestamp with authenticat… Dieter Sibold
- Re: [Ntp] The trick to timestamp with authenticat… Miroslav Lichvar
- [Ntp] Antwort: Re: The trick to timestamp with au… kristof.teichel
- Re: [Ntp] Antwort: Re: The trick to timestamp wit… Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Antwort: Re: The trick to timestamp wit… Dieter Sibold
- Re: [Ntp] Antwort: Re: The trick to timestamp wit… Philip Prindeville
- Re: [Ntp] Antwort: Re: The trick to timestamp wit… Watson Ladd