Re: [oam] [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding Plane Operations, Administration and Maintenance

Ron,

I've managed to change my plans will be able to attend in person.

Cheers

Rob Rennison

______________
From: Ronald Bonica [rbonica@juniper.net]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 12:16 PM
To: Alexander Vainshtein
Cc: Robert Rennison; Prashant Desai; Alexander Kugel; Rotem Cohen; Andrew Sergeev; Idan Kaspit; David VanRyzin; Jacob Ruthstein; oam@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding Plane Operations, Administration and Maintenance

Would any of you be available to present remotely?

                              Ron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Vainshtein [mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 3:33 AM
> To: Ronald Bonica
> Cc: Robert Rennison; Prashant Desai; Alexander Kugel; Rotem Cohen;
> Andrew Sergeev; Idan Kaspit; David VanRyzin; Jacob Ruthstein;
> oam@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding
> Plane Operations, Administration and Maintenance
>
> Ron, all,
> As it happens neither I nor any of my colleagues will be able to
> attend.
>
> I attach the position paper on the subject just in case.
>
> Regards and apologies,
>      Sasha
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Alexander Vainshtein
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 11:44 PM
> To: Ronald Bonica
> Cc: Robert Rennison; Prashant Desai; Alexander Kugel; Rotem Cohen;
> Andrew Sergeev; Idan Kaspit; David VanRyzin; Jacob Ruthstein
> Subject: RE: [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding
> Plane Operations, Administration and Maintenance
>
> Ron hi,
> Please see attached a presentation prepared by my colleagues and
> myself.
> I am sending it to you because I have not found any indications about
> how it should be submitted. And the deadline that has been announced
> seems quite close 9if not beyond us).
> Unfortunately, converting this presentation to an I-D was not possible
> due to lack of time.
>
> Regards,
>      Sasha
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Vainshtein
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 4:54 PM
> To: 'Ronald Bonica'
> Cc: Robert Rennison; Prashant Desai; Idan Kaspit; Alexander Kugel;
> Rotem Cohen; David VanRyzin
> Subject: RE: [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding
> Plane Operations, Administration and Maintenance
>
> Ron,
> My colleagues and I plan to submit a position paper for the Joint
> Design Session.
> We would appreciate any tips regarding the submission process since the
> deadline is close but, as of writing this,  no information (beyond  the
> size - 1 to 5 pages) seems to be available.
>
> Regards,
>      Sasha
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Ronald Bonica
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 8:31 PM
> To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-tp@ietf.org
> Subject: [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding Plane
> Operations, Administration and Maintenance
>
> Folks,
>
> Would anyone intending to submit a position paper please notify me
> privately?
>
>                                          Ron
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "IESG Secretary" <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
> > To: "IETF Announcement list" <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 7:36 PM
> > Subject: IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding Plane
> Operations,
> > Administration and Maintenance
> >
> >
> > > The IAB and IESG would like to announce a joint design session on
> > > Forwarding Plane Operations, Administration and Maintenance (OAM)
> to
> > be
> > > held on October 12 through October 14 at George Mason University in
> > > Fairfax, Virginia, USA.
> > >
> > > IP and ICMP support very simple forwarding plane diagnostic tools
> > (e.g.,
> > > PING, TRACEROUTE). During the Internet's first decades, these tools
> > > fulfilled most operational requirements. However, during the last
> > decade,
> > > network operators have deployed many technologies that rely upon
> > > tunneling. These technologies include Pseudo-wires, Layer 2 Virtual
> > > Private Networks, and Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks. While the
> > internet
> > > community has enhanced its forwarding plane diagnostic tool kit
> with
> > the
> > > deployment of Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD), some
> suggest
> > that
> > > the tool kit is still inadequate for tunneled applications.
> > >
> > > The purpose of this design session is to discover and document
> > > operational requirements and constraints for tunneled forwarding
> > plane
> > > OAM. The design session will also entertain solution proposals.
> > > While
> > most
> > > activity in this area has been associated with Multi-Protocol Label
> > > Switching (MPLS), session organizers also encourage generic
> > > proposals
> > that
> > > include other tunneling mechanisms (e.g., IP-in-IP).
> > >
> > > The scope of this design session is limited to the forwarding
> plane.
> > > Proposals concerning control and management plane protocols will
> not
> > be
> > > accepted. For example, a proposal that probes a tunnel for
> > > continuity would be acceptable, while a proposal for reporting
> > > tunnel continuity
> > to a
> > > routing protocol or management station would be productive, but
> > beyond the
> > > scope of this workshop.
> > >
> > > Those intending to make presentations must submit position papers
> to
> > the
> > > IAB/IESG by September 24. Position papers should constitute one to
> > five
> > > pages on the problem or solution space, with a particular emphasis
> > > on areas that the IETF should address or revisit. Evaluation of the
> > position
> > > papers will be performed by a committee consisting of IESG and IAB
> > > members. A limited number of seats will be available for persons
> not
> > > presenting.
> > >
> > > Position papers will be made publicly available. On the basis of
> the
> > > position papers, a number of invited speakers will be asked to
> > present at
> > > the workshop. A final agenda with timeslots will be published by
> > October
> > > 1.
> > >
> > >
> > > Further information about position paper submission procedures are
> > > forthcoming. Interested parties are advised to subscribe to the oam
> > at
> > > ietf.org mailing list for discussion and announcements related to
> > > the workshop. Additional information will be available at
> > > http://www3.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/oamJDS.
> > >
> > > Ron Bonica, IESG
> > > Danny McPherson, IAB
> > > Hannes Tschofenig, IAB
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