Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-Up Mitigation
Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com> Mon, 25 January 2016 23:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-Up Mitigation
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Sorry, meant to reply-all. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com <http://www.independentid.com/>phil.hunt@oracle.com <mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com> > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com> > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-Up Mitigation > Date: January 25, 2016 at 3:20:19 PM PST > To: Nat Sakimura <sakimura@gmail.com> > > I am having trouble with the very first assumption. The user-agent sets up a non TLS protected connection to the RP? That’s a fundamental violation of 6749. > > Also, the second statement says the RP (assuming it acts as OAuth client) is talking to two IDPs. That’s still a multi-AS case is it not? > > Phil > > @independentid > www.independentid.com <http://www.independentid.com/>phil.hunt@oracle.com <mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com> > > > > > >> On Jan 25, 2016, at 2:58 PM, Nat Sakimura <sakimura@gmail.com <mailto:sakimura@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Phil, >> >> Since I was not in Darmstadt, I really do not know what was discussed there, but with the compromised developer documentation described in http://nat.sakimura.org/2016/01/15/idp-mix-up-attack-on-oauth-rfc6749/ <http://nat.sakimura.org/2016/01/15/idp-mix-up-attack-on-oauth-rfc6749/>, all RFC6749 clients with a naive implementer will be affected. The client does not need to be talking to multiple IdPs. >> >> Nat >> >> 2016年1月26日(火) 3:58 Phil Hunt (IDM) <phil.hunt@oracle.com <mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com>>: >> I recall making this point in Germany. 99% of existing use is fine. OIDC is probably the largest community that *might* have an issue. >> >> I recall proposing a new security document that covers oauth security for dynamic scenarios. "Dynamic" being broadly defined to mean: >> * clients who have configured at runtime or install time (including clients that do discovery) >> * clients that communicate with more than one endpoint >> * clients that are deployed in large volume and may update frequently (more discussion of "public" cases) >> * clients that are script based (loaded into browser on the fly) >> * others? >> >> Phil >> >> > On Jan 25, 2016, at 10:39, George Fletcher <gffletch@aol.com <mailto:gffletch@aol.com>> wrote: >> > >> > would >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OAuth mailing list >> OAuth@ietf.org <mailto:OAuth@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth> >
- [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-Up Mi… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Phil Hunt (IDM)
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… William Denniss
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Anthony Nadalin
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Roland Hedberg
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Josh Mandel
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Josh Mandel
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… William Denniss
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Mike Jones
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… nov matake
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… William Denniss
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… nov matake
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Vladimir Dzhuvinov
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Phil Hunt (IDM)
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Justin Richer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… nov matake
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nov Matake
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Phil Hunt (IDM)
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Phil Hunt (IDM)
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… nov matake
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Phil Hunt (IDM)
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Justin Richer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Phil Hunt (IDM)
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-U… Mike Jones