Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAuth
Torsten Lodderstedt <torsten@lodderstedt.net> Tue, 30 April 2019 10:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAuth
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Sascha, I see the challenge, thanks! Potentially, one would need to have a more explicit typing support (schemes?) and use the name of the individual elements just as names, e.g. payment1, payment2. best regards, Torsten. > Am 25.04.2019 um 23:35 schrieb Sascha Preibisch <saschapreibisch@gmail.com>: > > Torsten, > > I think that works in most cases if you look at it that way. > > It is just that elements such as 'iban' are practically unknown here > in Canada for example. This means, there needs to be a differentiator > that tells a client that one payment may be of type 'payment_eu' and > in the other case 'payment_ca'. Actually .... now I see the 'type' > element. With that, 'payment + type' would provide that information. > > The only thing I would look into would be a change in the document > hierarchy to simply parsing of it. Potentially multiple payments could > be submitted at once also by adding a 'payments' root element: > > { > "payment": { > "sepa-credit-transfer": { > "instructedAmount": { > "currency": "EUR", > "amount": "123.50" > }, > "debtorAccount": { > "iban": "DE40100100103307118608" > }, > "creditorName": "Merchant123", > "creditorAccount": { > "iban": "DE02100100109307118603" > }, > "remittanceInformationUnstructured": "new Smartphone" > } > } > } > > But generally, the 'structured_scope' is a good concept I think. > > Thanks again, Torsten, > > Sascha > > Am Mi., 24. Apr. 2019 um 10:08 Uhr schrieb Torsten Lodderstedt > <torsten@lodderstedt.net>: >> >> Hi Sascha, >> >> I see. I assume every element within the structured scope element to be an independent scope (value) object and intended to use the name of that object as kind of content type definition. >> >> In my last example, the scope is defined as >> >> "structured_scope":{ >> "sign":{ >> "credentialID":"qes_eidas", >> "documentDigests":[ >> { >> "hash": >> "sTOgwOm+474gFj0q0x1iSNspKqbcse4IeiqlDg/HWuI=", >> "label":"Mobile Subscription Contract" >> } >> ], >> "hashAlgorithmOID":"2.16.840.1.101.3.4.2.1" >> }, >> "payment":{ >> "type":"sepa-credit-transfer", >> "instructedAmount":{ >> "currency":"EUR", >> "amount":"123.50" >> }, >> "debtorAccount":{ >> "iban":"DE40100100103307118608" >> }, >> "creditorName":"Merchant123", >> "creditorAccount":{ >> "iban":"DE02100100109307118603" >> }, >> "remittanceInformationUnstructured":"new Smartphone" >> } >> >> This means “sign" and “payment" would determine the scheme of the respective object. >> >> What do you think? >> >> best regards, >> Torsten. >> >>> On 23. Apr 2019, at 17:14, Sascha Preibisch <saschapreibisch@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Torsten! >>> >>> If 'structured_scope' would become a generic field for application >>> specific content, I believe an indicator for the type of content would >>> be needed on the long run. That is what I meant my 'profile'. I hope >>> this helps! >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Sascha >>> >>> Am Mo., 22. Apr. 2019 um 22:06 Uhr schrieb Torsten Lodderstedt >>> <torsten@lodderstedt.net>: >>>> >>>> Hi Sascha, >>>> >>>>> Am 22.04.2019 um 20:34 schrieb Sascha Preibisch <saschapreibisch@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for the article, Torsten! >>>> >>>> my pleasure :-) >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I like that 'scope' is out of the game for these kinds of authorizations. >>>>> >>>>> What I can see for the general use case is a required identifier >>>>> within the 'structures_scope' document that identifies the profile it >>>>> should be used for. >>>> >>>> What does profile mean in this context? >>>> >>>> best regards, >>>> Torsten. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Sascha >>>>> >>>>> Am Sa., 20. Apr. 2019 um 11:21 Uhr schrieb Torsten Lodderstedt >>>>> <torsten@lodderstedt.net>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just published an article about the subject at: https://medium.com/oauth-2/transaction-authorization-or-why-we-need-to-re-think-oauth-scopes-2326e2038948 >>>>>> >>>>>> I look forward to getting your feedback. >>>>>> >>>>>> kind regards, >>>>>> Torsten. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OAuth mailing list >>>>>> OAuth@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth >>
- [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAuth Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Vladimir Dzhuvinov
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Steinar Noem
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Pedro Igor Silva
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Jim Manico
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Pedro Igor Silva
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Pedro Igor Silva
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Pedro Igor Silva
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Pedro Igor Silva
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Sascha Preibisch
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Pedro Igor Silva
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Steinar Noem
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Sascha Preibisch
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Sascha Preibisch
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Takahiko Kawasaki
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Steinar Noem
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Takahiko Kawasaki
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Dave Tonge
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… George Fletcher
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Transaction Authorization with OAu… Torsten Lodderstedt