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Re: [Ohttp] Martin Duke's No Objection on charter-ietf-ohttp-00-00: (with COMMENT)

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Wed, 16 June 2021 23:30 UTC

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 09:29:32 +1000
From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ohttp] Martin Duke's No Objection on charter-ietf-ohttp-00-00: (with COMMENT)
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2021, at 09:24, Martin Duke wrote:
> If so, then let's explicitly  rule that out in the charter.

Sorry for not checking the text, but the proposed charter already says:

The working group will not describe how encryption keys are obtained.  The
working group will not define any methods for discoverying proxy or server
endpoints; specific uses of the protocol will need to describe discovery methods
or rely on configuration.

I thought that was pretty clear, but then I wrote it and I don't trust my own judgment in these things.

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