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Re: [openpgp] [RFC4880bis PATCH] Drop "Compatibility Profiles" section.

Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net> Thu, 29 April 2021 16:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [openpgp] [RFC4880bis PATCH] Drop "Compatibility Profiles" section.
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On Wed 2021-04-28 23:58:48 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
>>>> Additionally, the phrase "A compliant application MUST only use
>>>> iterated and salted S2K"... is also mostly fine, but I had already
>>>> covered a proposal for that one in the previous
>>>> https://gitlab.com/openpgp-wg/rfc4880bis/-/merge_requests/42
>>>
>>> I would need to hear from more people about this change to see if
>>> there is consensus for this.
>>>
>>> speaking with no roles others than an individual:
>>
>> This part was proposed in February on a different thread. I am moving
>> your comment there and replying in that one:
>>
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/openpgp/ml5gzuQtSY6ANBejs8Xk66x_abQ
>
> I've merged in this change in a seperate commit, please review as part
> of the next draft update. (commit 464ac8232f9)


I think the commit you're talking about is now public as
1edfd5d45a49a5a15d08eff9fff7d5c482acb6da, 'update text on "Simple S2K
and Salted S2K specifiers" as per WG discussion'.

minor clarification: among a few other changes, it adds this line:

+Implementations SHOULD NOT use these methods on encryption of both keys and messages.


I think this "both" should be "either" -- otherwise, the guidance sounds
like it applies only to some combination encryption (which isn't
possible iirc).  otherwise, it looks good to me.

         --dkg

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