Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext signing last line
Ben Laurie <ben@algroup.co.uk> Mon, 26 December 2005 17:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext signing last line
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David Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 04:20:28PM +0000, Ian G wrote: >> David Shaw wrote: >> >>> Can you give an example of why you feel this is a bug? >> I think it is a bug if we decide that the >> process of cleartext signing is reversable. > > Can you please give an example of how the current system is not > reversible? > > As far as I can see, the current system is quite reversible. For > example, given a document reading "this is a test" (no line ending, > and the last character in the file is the second t from test), here's > a clear signature: > > test <<----- There is a CRLF here, but it is NOT PART OF THE SIG > Now given a document reading "this is a test<LINEENDING>", here's a > clear signature: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 test <<----- There is a CRLF here and it IS PART OF THE SIG <<----- There is a CRLF here, but it is NOT PART OF THE SIG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- blah blah blah -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > In what way is this not reversible? >> So, if the process of verification creates >> a file that is the pre-signed version, then >> it has to decide whether the final CRLF has >> to be preserved or stripped in the unsigned >> output. > The final CRLF is not part of the document. If a user/implementation > wants a final CRLF in there that is part of the document, they need to > add one. > Think of the "BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE" string as actually being > "CRLF-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE". It's part of the message structure > and not part of the signed text. If that were what happened, I'd be happy. But it isn't. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/ ** ApacheCon - Dec 10-14th - San Diego - http://apachecon.com/ ** "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff
- [Fwd: [PGP-USERS] Word Wrap Problems with PGP 9.0… Ian G
- Re: [Fwd: [PGP-USERS] Word Wrap Problems with PGP… Daniel A. Nagy
- Outstanding question - rule on cleartext signing … Ian G
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… Werner Koch
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… Daniel A. Nagy
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… Daniel A. Nagy
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… David Shaw
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… Ben Laurie
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… Daniel A. Nagy
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… David Shaw
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… Ian G
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… David Shaw
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… David Shaw
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… Ben Laurie
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… Ben Laurie
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… Ben Laurie
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… Ian G
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… David Shaw
- Re: Outstanding question - rule on cleartext sign… Daniel A. Nagy