Re: [OPSAWG] WGLC on draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def

[Scott Mansfield <[e-mail]>]

I understand your point.  OAM is easy to confuse with O&M.  However, I think it is important to highlight the differences because (in my experience anyway) where O&M is used it usually means all of management, and when the term OAM is used it sometime means all of management and sometimes means the horizontal management protocol(s) used between NE's.

I suggest keeping O&M as the suggested acronym for management because it usually means what we want it to mean.  If you would like to add extra text pointing out what O&M means, that might be useful to add.

Regards,
-scott. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juergen Schoenwaelder 
> [mailto:[e-mail]] 
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:19 AM
> To: Scott Mansfield
> Cc: Bert (IETF) Wijnen; [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] WGLC on draft-ietf-opsawg-mpls-tp-oam-def
> 
> On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 05:02:38PM -0500, Scott Mansfield wrote:
> > 
> > > Personally, I am not too happy with the choice of the O&M acronym 
> > > because it is very easy to confuse with OAM - the 
> difference really 
> > > does not stand out.
> > 
> > The O&M acronym seems to be the one that is most confused 
> with OAM (when talking with non-management folks).  That is 
> why I think it is important to show both OAM and O&M.  If you 
> want to equate O&M with OAM+Mgmt, we could point that out in 
> the document.
> 
> Now I am confused. Section 4 says:
> 
>    O&M - OAM and Management
> 
> So this is not my proposal, this is what the I-D says. My 
> point is that OAM and O&M are way to easy to confuse and 
> misread and hence I would prefer some other notation.
> 
> > This would point out that there is not a one-to-one mapping 
> of what we 
> > mean by OAM to FCAPS.  As said before, FCAPS is more vertically 
> > oriented dealing with NE to EMS communication while the term OAM is 
> > horizontally oriented dealing with NE to NE communication.  So a 
> > simple picture like this might be helpful...
> > 
> >          NMS          
> >         /    \
> >     (FCAPS)  (FCAPS)
> >       /         \ 
> >      EMS        EMS 
> >     /    \       \ 
> > (FCAPS) (FCAPS) (FCAPS)
> >  /         |          \
> > NE -(OAM)- NE -(OAM)- NE
> 
> This is an interesting way of drawing this. I kind of like it.
> 
> /js
> 
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