Re: [OPSAWG] my initial review of draft-schoenw-syslog-msg-mib-00.txt

"Bert Wijnen - IETF" <bertietf@bwijnen.net> Sat, 03 May 2008 08:58 UTC

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So that seems a good reason for this sort of truncation.
Indeed, explaing (with prefereably a reference) why it
is done this way would be good.

If I had been involved in the syslog effort, I would 
probably have objected to this type of truncation.

Bert Wijnen 

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: David Harrington [mailto:ietfdbh@comcast.net]
> Verzonden: vrijdag 2 mei 2008 16:56
> Aan: 'Bert Wijnen - IETF'; j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de;
> sob@harvard.edu; ted.a.seely@sprint.com
> CC: opsawg@ietf.org
> Onderwerp: RE: [OPSAWG] my initial review of
> draft-schoenw-syslog-msg-mib-00.txt
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The discussion of truncation follows the syslog WG's protocol I-D.
> I am not certain that it is necessary to state here that the trucation
> might lead to incomplete UTF-8 characters, but it would probably be
> more helpful than harmful. You might want to include a REFERENCE.
> 
> David Harrington
> dbharrington@comcast.net
> ietfdbh@comcast.net
> dharrington@huawei.com
> syslog WG co-chair
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org 
> > [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bert Wijnen - IETF
> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:41 AM
> > To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de; sob@harvard.edu; 
> > ted.a.seely@sprint.com
> > Cc: opsawg@ietf.org
> > Subject: [OPSAWG] my initial review of 
> > draft-schoenw-syslog-msg-mib-00.txt
> > 
> > In general I think a MIB module like this one makes sense and
> > will be usefull.
> > 
> > Some comments:
> > 
> > - I see 2 writable objects at the beginning of the MIB module.
> >   But it is unclear what the expected persistency behaviour is.
> > 
> > - Would it not be easier to use SnmpAdminString instead of
> >   DisplayString? Do we never expect any of these fields to
> >   contain Internationlized names?
> > 
> > - WHen I see:
> >          If the first octets contain the value 'EFBBBF'h, 
> > then the rest
> >          of the message is a UTF-8 string. Since syslog 
> > messages may be
> >          truncated, the message may contain invalid UTF-8 encodings
> at
> >          the end."
> >   I wonder if it would not be better to truncate in such a way that
> >   message allways contains valid UTF-8 encodings.
> >   What was/is your motivation to not do that?
> > 
> > - I find these somewhat weird:
> >       MIN-ACCESS  accessible-for-notify
> >       DESCRIPTION
> >           "Read write access is not required."
> > 
> >   The MAX-ACCESS for this (and other) objects is read-only.
> >   So the DESCRIPTION clause seems bogus.
> >   I guess you mean that one does not need to support READ
> > (GET/HETNEXT/GETBULK)
> >   access. You have several of those.
> > 
> > NITs/TYPOs
> > 
> > - second para sect 1:
> > 
> >    This document defines an SNMP MIB modules to represent SYSLOG
> > 
> >   I guess you want to s/modules/module/
> > 
> > - page 9
> > 
> >           For syslog messages without structured data element 
> > parameters
> >           that were not truncted by the converter, none of the bits
> is
> >           set."
> > 
> >   s/truncted/truncated/
> > 
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