Re: [OPSAWG] my initial review of draft-schoenw-syslog-msg-mib-00.txt
"Bert Wijnen - IETF" <bertietf@bwijnen.net> Sat, 03 May 2008 08:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] my initial review of draft-schoenw-syslog-msg-mib-00.txt
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So that seems a good reason for this sort of truncation. Indeed, explaing (with prefereably a reference) why it is done this way would be good. If I had been involved in the syslog effort, I would probably have objected to this type of truncation. Bert Wijnen > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: David Harrington [mailto:ietfdbh@comcast.net] > Verzonden: vrijdag 2 mei 2008 16:56 > Aan: 'Bert Wijnen - IETF'; j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de; > sob@harvard.edu; ted.a.seely@sprint.com > CC: opsawg@ietf.org > Onderwerp: RE: [OPSAWG] my initial review of > draft-schoenw-syslog-msg-mib-00.txt > > > Hi, > > The discussion of truncation follows the syslog WG's protocol I-D. > I am not certain that it is necessary to state here that the trucation > might lead to incomplete UTF-8 characters, but it would probably be > more helpful than harmful. You might want to include a REFERENCE. > > David Harrington > dbharrington@comcast.net > ietfdbh@comcast.net > dharrington@huawei.com > syslog WG co-chair > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bert Wijnen - IETF > > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:41 AM > > To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de; sob@harvard.edu; > > ted.a.seely@sprint.com > > Cc: opsawg@ietf.org > > Subject: [OPSAWG] my initial review of > > draft-schoenw-syslog-msg-mib-00.txt > > > > In general I think a MIB module like this one makes sense and > > will be usefull. > > > > Some comments: > > > > - I see 2 writable objects at the beginning of the MIB module. > > But it is unclear what the expected persistency behaviour is. > > > > - Would it not be easier to use SnmpAdminString instead of > > DisplayString? Do we never expect any of these fields to > > contain Internationlized names? > > > > - WHen I see: > > If the first octets contain the value 'EFBBBF'h, > > then the rest > > of the message is a UTF-8 string. Since syslog > > messages may be > > truncated, the message may contain invalid UTF-8 encodings > at > > the end." > > I wonder if it would not be better to truncate in such a way that > > message allways contains valid UTF-8 encodings. > > What was/is your motivation to not do that? > > > > - I find these somewhat weird: > > MIN-ACCESS accessible-for-notify > > DESCRIPTION > > "Read write access is not required." > > > > The MAX-ACCESS for this (and other) objects is read-only. > > So the DESCRIPTION clause seems bogus. > > I guess you mean that one does not need to support READ > > (GET/HETNEXT/GETBULK) > > access. You have several of those. > > > > NITs/TYPOs > > > > - second para sect 1: > > > > This document defines an SNMP MIB modules to represent SYSLOG > > > > I guess you want to s/modules/module/ > > > > - page 9 > > > > For syslog messages without structured data element > > parameters > > that were not truncted by the converter, none of the bits > is > > set." > > > > s/truncted/truncated/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OPSAWG mailing list > > OPSAWG@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg > > > > _______________________________________________ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg
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- Re: [OPSAWG] my initial review of draft-marinov-s… David Harrington
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- Re: [OPSAWG] my initial review of draft-marinov-s… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [OPSAWG] my initial review of draft-marinov-s… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [OPSAWG] my initial review of draft-marinov-s… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [OPSAWG] my initial review of draft-marinov-s… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [OPSAWG] my initial review of draft-marinov-s… Randy Presuhn