Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-finding-geofeeds-04
Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Mon, 19 April 2021 13:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-finding-geofeeds-04
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>> Unless <xref target="RFC8805"/> is modified to formally define > [RW] > > My comment was less about what gets written in the documents, and more > about how this update would actually be done in practice. E.g., > updating 8805 to indicate a new section would presumably break any > existing clients expecting to fetch a regular CSV file via the > "geofeed: or "remaks: geofeed" attributes? > > I.e., it seems that either 8805 would have to be updated in backwards > compatible way, and it looks like adding such an appendix wouldn't be > backwards compatible (c.f., RFC 8805 section 7), or all clients would > have to be updated before the publishing format is changed, or it > would need new geofeed attribute names to publish the different > versions of the geofeed data at the same time. > > How wedded are you to that text? Perhaps it would be simpler to just > delete the "Until [RFC8805] is updated to formally define such an > appendix" text and just say that the signature is always predicated by > '#' comments? sorry for not understanding your point. there is no backward compatible way forward for 8805. so i have hacked as you suggest The appendix MUST be 'hidden' as a series of "#" comments at the end of the geofeed file. The following is a cryptographically incorrect, albeit simple example. A correct and full example is in <xref target="example"/>. randy
- [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-finding-g… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Randy Bush
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Russ Housley
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Randy Bush
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Russ Housley
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Randy Bush
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Randy Bush
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Randy Bush
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Russ Housley
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Warren Kumari
- Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-findi… Rob Wilton (rwilton)