Re: [OPSAWG] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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To: Zaheduzzaman Sarker <Zaheduzzaman.Sarker@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi Zahed, 

The proposed changes to address your DISCUSS are now implemented in a new revision:

URL:            https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-12.txt 
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm/ 
Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm 
Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-12

Please me know if you still have any comment. Thanks. 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : mohamed.boucadair@orange.com [mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com]
> Envoyé : mercredi 22 septembre 2021 12:05
> À : Zaheduzzaman Sarker <Zaheduzzaman.Sarker@ericsson.com>; The IESG
> <iesg@ietf.org>
> Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm@ietf.org; opsawg-chairs@ietf.org;
> opsawg@ietf.org; adrian@olddog.co.uk
> Objet : RE: Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-
> l3nm-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
> 
> Re-,
> 
> Please see inline.
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Zaheduzzaman Sarker via Datatracker [mailto:noreply@ietf.org]
> > Envoyé : mercredi 22 septembre 2021 10:16 À : The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm@ietf.org; opsawg-chairs@ietf.org;
> > opsawg@ietf.org; adrian@olddog.co.uk; adrian@olddog.co.uk Objet :
> > Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-11:
> > (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
> >
> > Zaheduzzaman Sarker has entered the following ballot position for
> > draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-11: Discuss
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > DISCUSS:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > This specification refers to ietf-opsawg-vpn-common for qos related
> > matching, hence I am raising similar discussion as I had for ietf-
> > opsawg-vpn-common (see here
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-
> > opsawg-vpn-common/).
> >
> > This specification specifies qos classification based on L4 criteria
> > and describes the procedure for TCP and UDP. It is possible that new
> > L4 protocols (for example QUIC) use UDP as substrate hence can create
> > ambiguity based of the procedure described in the specification.
> >
> > This specification should consider such potential substrate usage of
> > L4 protocols (specially UDP) and hint on the potential augmentations
> > (there might be several ways to do that) or scope it down to not
> > support such cases.
> 
> [[Med]] Added this NEW text to echo the proposal in the common module:
> 
>          As discussed in [I-D.ietf-opsawg-vpn-common], some transport
>          protocols use existing protocols (e.g., TCP or UDP) as
>          substrate.  The match criteria for such protocols may rely upon
>          the 'protocol' under 'l3', TCP/UDP match criteria shown in
>          Figure 26, part of the TCP/UDP payload, or a combination
>          thereof.  This version of the module does not support such
>          advanced match criteria.  Future revisions of the VPN common
>          module or augmentations to the L3NM may consider adding match
>          criteria based on the transport protocol payload (e.g., by
>          means of a bitmask match).
> 
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > COMMENT:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Thanks to the authors for their efforts in the specification.
> >
> > Additional comment(s)-
> >
> > * I think if would be good if this specification also discusses the
> > implication of wrong classification (e.g. for qos) based on the model
> > specified here (no particular suggestion from me where but may be in
> > security considerations).
> >
> 
> [[Med]] I think this is already covered by this part in the draft:
> 
>       In addition,
>       an attacker may modify the attributes of a running service (e.g.,
>       QoS, bandwidth, routing protocols), leading to malfunctioning of
>       the service and therefore to SLA violations.
> 
> Please let me know if there is more to say here. Thanks.
> 
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