Re: [OPSAWG] Martin Duke's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-11: (with DISCUSS)

Hi Martin ,

The proposed changes to echo the clarification provided below and the discussion with Michael (thanks) are now implemented in a new revision:

URL:            https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-12.txt 
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm/ 
Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm 
Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-12

Please me know if you still have any comment. Thank you. 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : OPSAWG [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de
> mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
> Envoyé : lundi 20 septembre 2021 09:03
> À : Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>; The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org; opsawg-
> chairs@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [OPSAWG] Martin Duke's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-
> l3nm-11: (with DISCUSS)
> 
> Hi Martin,
> 
> Thank you for the review.
> 
> I'm very familiar with draft-ietf-tcpm-yang-tcp (as you can see in the
> ACK section of that document).
> 
> The structure in draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm follows the one in draft-
> ietf-idr-bgp-model:
> 
> draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm
> 
>   |     |  |     +--rw (option)?
>   |     |  |        +--:(tcp-ao)
>   |     |  |        |  +--rw enable-tcp-ao?      boolean
>   |     |  |        |  +--rw ao-keychain?        key-chain:key-chain-ref
> 
> 
> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model
> 
>          |  |  |  +--rw (option)?
>          |  |  |     +--:(ao)
>          |  |  |     |  +--rw enable-ao?             boolean
>          |  |  |     |  +--rw send-id?               uint8
>          |  |  |     |  +--rw recv-id?               uint8
>          |  |  |     |  +--rw include-tcp-options?   boolean
>          |  |  |     |  +--rw accept-ao-mismatch?    boolean
>          |  |  |     |  +--rw ao-keychain?
>          |  |  |     |          key-chain:key-chain-ref
> 
> We are not echoing the full structure because the L3NM is a network
> model, not a device model. A network model does not aim to control every
> parameter that can be manipulated at the device level. Other than
> enabling/disabling TCP-AP and providing the ao-keychain, we didn't
> identify a need to control and customize at the network service level
> the data nodes in draft-ietf-tcpm-yang-tcp:
> 
>          |  |  |     |  +--rw send-id?               uint8
>          |  |  |     |  +--rw recv-id?               uint8
>          |  |  |     |  +--rw include-tcp-options?   boolean
>          |  |  |     |  +--rw accept-ao-mismatch?    boolean
> 
> These optional nodes can be part of a local profile that can be directly
> manipulated at the device module (draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model).
> 
> We can make these changes, though:
> 
> s/tcp-ao/ao
> s/enable-tcp-ao/enable-ao
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Martin Duke via Datatracker [mailto:noreply@ietf.org] Envoyé :
> > dimanche 19 septembre 2021 19:55 À : The IESG <iesg@ietf.org> Cc :
> > draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm@ietf.org; opsawg-chairs@ietf.org;
> > opsawg@ietf.org; adrian@olddog.co.uk; adrian@olddog.co.uk Objet :
> > Martin Duke's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-11: (with
> > DISCUSS)
> >
> > Martin Duke has entered the following ballot position for
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> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > DISCUSS:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > (7.6.3) Is there a reason the TCP-AO model in this draft is different
> > from the one in draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model-11? That draft is using a
> > model developed in the TCPM WG (draft-ietf-tcpm-yang-tcp) specifically
> > for that purpose.
> >
> > If there is no compelling requirement for something different, or the
> > TCPM modelling work can be stretched to cover this use case as well,
> > it would be far better than rolling a totally separate TCP YANG model
> here.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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