Re: [OPSAWG] Martin Duke's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-11: (with DISCUSS)

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From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
To: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Martin Duke's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-11: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi Martin, 

Thank you for the review. 

I'm very familiar with draft-ietf-tcpm-yang-tcp (as you can see in the ACK section of that document). 

The structure in draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm follows the one in draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model: 

draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm

  |     |  |     +--rw (option)?
  |     |  |        +--:(tcp-ao)
  |     |  |        |  +--rw enable-tcp-ao?      boolean
  |     |  |        |  +--rw ao-keychain?        key-chain:key-chain-ref


draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model

         |  |  |  +--rw (option)?
         |  |  |     +--:(ao)
         |  |  |     |  +--rw enable-ao?             boolean
         |  |  |     |  +--rw send-id?               uint8
         |  |  |     |  +--rw recv-id?               uint8
         |  |  |     |  +--rw include-tcp-options?   boolean
         |  |  |     |  +--rw accept-ao-mismatch?    boolean
         |  |  |     |  +--rw ao-keychain?
         |  |  |     |          key-chain:key-chain-ref

We are not echoing the full structure because the L3NM is a network model, not a device model. A network model does not aim to control every parameter that can be manipulated at the device level. Other than enabling/disabling TCP-AP and providing the ao-keychain, we didn't identify a need to control and customize at the network service level the data nodes in draft-ietf-tcpm-yang-tcp:

         |  |  |     |  +--rw send-id?               uint8
         |  |  |     |  +--rw recv-id?               uint8
         |  |  |     |  +--rw include-tcp-options?   boolean
         |  |  |     |  +--rw accept-ao-mismatch?    boolean

These optional nodes can be part of a local profile that can be directly manipulated at the device module (draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model). 

We can make these changes, though:

s/tcp-ao/ao
s/enable-tcp-ao/enable-ao

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Martin Duke via Datatracker [mailto:noreply@ietf.org]
> Envoyé : dimanche 19 septembre 2021 19:55
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> (7.6.3) Is there a reason the TCP-AO model in this draft is different
> from the one in draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model-11? That draft is using a model
> developed in the TCPM WG (draft-ietf-tcpm-yang-tcp) specifically for
> that purpose.
> 
> If there is no compelling requirement for something different, or the
> TCPM modelling work can be stretched to cover this use case as well, it
> would be far better than rolling a totally separate TCP YANG model here.
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